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Transmission vibration/resonance at 1800 rpm 6spd manual 2013 Jetta TDI

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#1 ·
Brand new 2013 jetta tdi 6spd manual and driving it for 100 miles I have noticed the following.

There is a moderate vibration (more like a resonance) when engine/transmission input shaft spins at 1800 RPM.

Initially noticed at about 40 mph when in 3rd gear but also very apparent at about 60 mph in 5th gear (also1800 RPM).

The vibration feels as if a tire is out of balance and persists if I disengage clutch leave the shifter in gear and let engine rpms drop to idle , suggesting it may be tire or driveshaft related, however if I then place shifter to neutral, keep clutch disengaged, and coast at same speed the car has no vibration and is smooth even if I rev engine to 1800 rpm (difficult to keep at steady 1800 with no load on motor).

This suggests to me that it is related to the rotation of the tranny input shaft and not an engine resonance and not due to tire or axleshaft rotations.

Has anyone else experienced this? Any ideas? I am concerned the tranny shafts or are unbalanced or not perfectly lined up with the engine flywheel which will then wear the input shaft bearings. Car is literally right off the lot! The diesel clatter makes it impossible to hear any bearing or other subtle mechanical issues.

Is this a DMF issue?I kind of envision the DMF as bolted to the engine crank and spinning with the engine revs and not the input shaft unless. I do have the clutch and the engaging from 1st and R gear vibrations as mentioned elsewhere in these forums.

I have been driving a manual for over 40 years and have never experienced this! Separated tire belts, unbalanced tire, snow or dirt in tire rims, bent rims, etc I know very well. This is puzzling to me!

Thanks for any input.
 
#3 ·
Very interesting. Thank you

I have now put another 130 miles on car, about 280 total, and my vibration is similar except it only seems to exist, i.e. be noticeable, between 40-50 mph with a peak just below 45. Initially I thought it was rpm related. I am wrong it is only vehicle speed dependent.

I do not have any sound or noise associated with it.

If clutch pedal is depressed and the engine drops to idle the vibration doesn't change. If i then put selector to neutral and take foot off clutch the vibration diminishes significanlty but may not go away. If I then depress clutch pedal and place selector back into any gear gate (3rd, 4th, or 5th), engine now idling, the vibration will increase regardless of whether I engage or disengage clutch.

Problem is doing all this I will often coast to lower end of the vibration speed so I need to work on this a bit. Therefore I interpret this as being a drivetrain, not engine, rotation dependent vibration with the transmission possibly causing or at least amplifying the vibration.

Sometimes it is more pronounced, so I would say it is variable, not sure if load induced. Seems to be much more noticeable if driving with a "light" foot.

I have read that others have had the vibration go away if they turn steering wheel. In my case I did not try that that however another interesting phenom, not sure if related is; at 60-70+ car is smooth, i.e. no vibration, while going straight and curving to right but curving to left I get a "roughness" in ride which I interpret as a mild vibration. (Noticed this while on Merritt parkway morning commute!)

Car otherwise tracks straight i.e. doesn't pull so I don't think it is alignment but I can be wrong.

Got 50.1 mpg this morning at 60-75 mph heading int NYC so doubt significant mechanical issue or rolling resistance.

Other threads have not mentioned the differential! (or differential bushings)! Not sure what type of diff is on vehicle. That is my thinking right now. In one month I return to dealer and will try to keep notes.

For now I will just drive and see if it "goes away" after a good "break in".