[lwt42]

Correct BC you try to make a big deal out of nothing

What you're claiming is that less fuel burned equals less smog.

If that was true, every car maker would gladly eliminate the catalytic converters and all of the other expensive emission controls and make cars cheaper and CLEANER.

Car makers have spent billions trying to make cars cleaner. If they could do so by eliminating parts, even if the parts were cheap they'd do it in a heartbeat.

 

[Lysias18]

Ok

 

[Audi5000TDI]

I think the credibility stops on Lysias18 when tinted window, a stereo and a 12" subwoofer are considered "mods" in their signature. That's the sign of a selfish child, not a responsible adult. That's what kind of mods children make, not responsible adults.

Lysis hasn't even been here a month... sad, how he spreads his mindless propaganda on pollution control modifications that are highly illegal. Kind of folk I'd like to see off our public roads and interstates, gross polluters that they are.

 

[Lysias18]

I think the credibility stops on Lysias18 when tinted window, a stereo and a 12" subwoofer are considered "mods" in their signature. That's the sign of a selfish child, not a responsible adult. That's what kind of mods children make, not responsible adults.

Lysis hasn't even been here a month... sad, how he spreads his mindless propaganda on pollution control modifications that are highly illegal. Kind of folk I'd like to see off our public roads and interstates, gross polluters that they are.

Didn't know there was a specific list of mods we could do to our own cars. I can spend my money how I want and mod my car how I want. Give me money and I'll mod it the way you want me to.

 

[lwt42]

I think the credibility stops on Lysias18 when tinted window, a stereo and a 12" subwoofer are considered "mods" in their signature. That's the sign of a selfish child, not a responsible adult. That's what kind of mods children make, not responsible adults.

Lysis hasn't even been here a month... sad, how he spreads his mindless propaganda on pollution control modifications that are highly illegal. Kind of folk I'd like to see off our public roads and interstates, gross polluters that they are.

He said earlier in the thread that this is "off-road only."

Edit:

... then Lysias18 clicked the "like" button on this post.

I think Lysias18 is working very hard to convince himself that what he's doing is the right thing to do. Sometimes he slips and just tells us he's really just selfish.

Unfortunately, he probably lives in a state that doesn't verify pollution controls.

I'd bet serious cash that he's never driven his car off road -- but I don't think I'd get any takers.

 

[kyle_h]

Ya guys it's illegal! Let's all go smoke cigarettes, they're good for everyone's health

 

[Lysias18]

Ya guys it's illegal! Let's all go smoke cigarettes, they're good for everyone's health

Smoking cigarettes is legal

 

[Lysias18]

He said earlier in the thread that this is "off-road only."

Edit:

... then Lysias18 clicked the "like" button on this post.

I think Lysias18 is working very hard to convince himself that what he's doing is the right thing to do. Sometimes he slips and just tells us he's really just selfish.

Unfortunately, he probably lives in a state that doesn't verify pollution controls.

I'd bet serious cash that he's never driven his car off road -- but I don't think I'd get any takers.

Why not go after the manufacturer of the parts? Instead of crying to one person

 

[Lysias18]

My daily driver is a supercharged 2009 Toyota Tacoma, lifted, with Nitto Mud Grappler tires

 

[Lysias18]

Is this an environmentalist forum?

 

[lwt42]

Why not go after the manufacturer of the parts? Instead of crying to one person

Because the manufacturer does not claim that their parts are legal for on the street, and they know that removing emissions control equipment does not make a car run cleaner.

You made that claim.

You also said you really don't care about how your actions affect others (more soot = more heart problems).

Now you're blaming the fact that your car no longer meets emission rules on the company who made the parts.

RAWTEK didn't make you buy the parts, and they didn't make you install them.

You say it's off-road only, yet it seems pretty clear from your other posts that you drive it on the street.

To answer another question, this isn't an environmental forum, it's a car forum. When someone says:

Power to weight ratio has increased so I'm emitting less emissions per tank of fuel, so I don't see the problem

You're going to get called on the facts -- and that statement is not only flat wrong, it is based on a pretty complete lack of understanding.

When you say you'll do as you please and you don't care how it affects anyone else, then you aren't going to make friends in any forum.

 

[Lysias18]

Because the manufacturer does not claim that their parts are legal for on the street, and they know that removing emissions control equipment does not make a car run cleaner.

You made that claim.

You also said you really don't care about how your actions affect others (more soot = more heart problems).

Now you're blaming the fact that your car no longer meets emission rules on the company who made the parts.

RAWTEK didn't make you buy the parts, and they didn't make you install them.

You say it's off-road only, yet it seems pretty clear from your other posts that you drive it on the street.

To answer another question, this isn't an environmental forum, it's a car forum. When someone says:



You're going to get called on the facts -- and that statement is not only flat wrong, it is based on a pretty complete lack of understanding.

When you say you'll do as you please and you don't care how it affects anyone else, then you aren't going to make friends in any forum.

I didn't join to make friends bro

 

[Lysias18]

Haha do you think people go to the moon and drive "off road" ? Emission are emissions and they'll affect the environment regardless of where we drive. If you're that concerned then walk everywhere you go BC even zero emission vehicles are hurting the planet through their manufacturing process

 

[lwt42]

I didn't join to make friends bro

Don't call me bro.

 

[Lysias18]

Don't call me bro.

Or what?

 

[lwt42]

Haha do you think people go to the moon and drive "off road" ? Emission are emissions and they'll affect the environment regardless of where we drive. If you're that concerned then walk everywhere you go BC even zero emission vehicles are hurting the planet through their manufacturing process

If you want to talk about stupid government regulations, we can do that. I'd likely agree with you.

If you want to talk about how the electric car companies lie in their advertising, we can do that. The electricity comes from somewhere, probably a coal-fired plant.

It doesn't make sense that on-road and off-road vehicles are subject to different emissions rules.

That doesn't change the fact that you think that the off-road rules should apply to your on-road vehicle, and they don't.

Saying that you burn less fuel means less pollution is simply incorrect. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt by assuming that you don't actually know what comes out of the exhaust manifold, and what is, or isn't, pollution.

Saying you don't care how your actions affect the rest of us is just plain antisocial.

What I do know is how hard it was to breathe in the Los Angeles Basin in the 1960's, and how much easier it is to breathe now, even on the smoggiest days.

I'll even agree that one dirty car won't make a difference, even on the worst possible days, but if enough people have your lousy attitude it'll make a huge difference.

I'm not even really addressing you: I'm addressing the people who read your claim that you're helping the environment, when all you're really doing is trying to justify your actions with unfounded statements.

If you'd like to continue the discussion, I'm retired. I have time.

 

[Lysias18]

If you want to talk about stupid government regulations, we can do that. I'd likely agree with you.

If you want to talk about how the electric car companies lie in their advertising, we can do that. The electricity comes from somewhere, probably a coal-fired plant.

It doesn't make sense that on-road and off-road vehicles are subject to different emissions rules.

That doesn't change the fact that you think that the off-road rules should apply to your on-road vehicle, and they don't.

Saying that you burn less fuel means less pollution is simply incorrect. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt by assuming that you don't actually know what comes out of the exhaust manifold, and what is, or isn't, pollution.

Saying you don't care how your actions affect the rest of us is just plain antisocial.

What I do know is how hard it was to breathe in the Los Angeles Basin in the 1960's, and how much easier it is to breathe now, even on the smoggiest days.

I'll even agree that one dirty car won't make a difference, even on the worst possible days, but if enough people have your lousy attitude it'll make a huge difference.

I'm not even really addressing you: I'm addressing the people who read your claim that you're helping the environment, when all you're really doing is trying to justify your actions with unfounded statements.

If you'd like to continue the discussion, I'm retired. I have time.

We can continue. I'm young, I have time.

 

[lwt42]

We can continue. I'm young, I have time.

You have the floor: I believe the topic is "why rules don't apply to Lysias18."

 

[Lysias18]

BC I'm awesome

 

[Lysias18]

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