Would you buy another new Jetta or Golf?
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How about a poll? No car is perfect and from what I can tell, if you have a bad fuel pump it should show up during the warranty period. Nothing can protect the car aganist misfueling but that's what insurance is for. If you're that scared of ownership how about an extended warranty or a honda? I would bet that most would since VW still sell pretty well and TDIs seem as popular as ever.
Only had my Golf since last week but it seems very solid. I got the 10 year warranty anyways so not too worried. I'd probably get the Golf over the Jetta. Get it from the motherland rather than Mexico. Edit: Pretty sure they are building a new plant in the USA to make the Jettas.
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I believe the plant in the USA will also make the 2011 or 2012 NMS or the new midsize sedan. This is either the Passat replacement or the new Passat.
Buy what you like and don't look back. Stuff breaks and you could get a lemon with any brand.
Buy what you like and don't look back. Stuff breaks and you could get a lemon with any brand.
No other car can do, feel, and look how these look.Having worked for a number of years as a tech for Porsche/Audi, the VW-sourced parts in the cars assembled in "the motherland" come from all over the world, including Mexico. As part of warranty claims, we were required to note which country on failed parts. Mexico did not stand out in any way.
Plus, if the idea of Mexican assembly worries you (it shouldn't), be aware that engines and transmissions are shipped there as assembled units from the also-not-perfect motherland.
-dan
It is at least 75% of German origin in the 2010 Golf TDI. So far haven't found any of the actual mechanical parts from outside of Germany except the engine of course (Hungary). It is probably interior and whatnot they've outsourced, like the radio, etc.
I just go by Consumer Reports mainly. I have a friend with a Jetta Sportwagen TDI and he hasn't had any issues yet. I know if I bought one I'd be assured to get a lemon, that is just my luck. Just doing everything I can to minimize possible issues.
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I did just that.
I own a 2005 (Last year Wolfsburg made Wagon) TDI Wagon. - It was completely trouble free except for bad dealer serivce at 60K and glow plug recall non-sense. This TDI wagon has been amazingly trouble free.
I was so amazed by the 2005-TDI-JSW, that I sold my Isuzu PUP with a 1/4 million miles for what I paid for it and purchsed a new 2010 JSW 6 speed w/ roof. I have had it six months now 5K w/ no issues but jury is not out yet.
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I have been adding cetane booster to both vehicles and Diesel Kleen to avoid sooty EGR problems/intake issues for around town short journeys.
2010 JSW has more bells and whistles, it's heavier, has [email protected] chinese tires, but is a comfortable driver. When looking at both sets of keys in the drawer, I prefer the better economy and drivability of the 2005.
I am happy as a two JSW family. Your results may vary - but for what it is worth, I avoid service and parts department of the Oregon VWoA dealer network. DIY is better and when stuck outside your comfort zone, look to a good TDI/Porsche/VW/Audi specialist in your area.
I did just that.
I own a 2005 (Last year Wolfsburg made Wagon) TDI Wagon. - It was completely trouble free except for bad dealer serivce at 60K and glow plug recall non-sense. This TDI wagon has been amazingly trouble free.
I was so amazed by the 2005-TDI-JSW, that I sold my Isuzu PUP with a 1/4 million miles for what I paid for it and purchsed a new 2010 JSW 6 speed w/ roof. I have had it six months now 5K w/ no issues but jury is not out yet.
(fuels blending recommendation)
I have been adding cetane booster to both vehicles and Diesel Kleen to avoid sooty EGR problems/intake issues for around town short journeys.
2010 JSW has more bells and whistles, it's heavier, has [email protected] chinese tires, but is a comfortable driver. When looking at both sets of keys in the drawer, I prefer the better economy and drivability of the 2005.
I am happy as a two JSW family. Your results may vary - but for what it is worth, I avoid service and parts department of the Oregon VWoA dealer network. DIY is better and when stuck outside your comfort zone, look to a good TDI/Porsche/VW/Audi specialist in your area.
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YES YES AND YES i would buy another one
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My first VW diesel was in 1979, a Rabbit (which went 220,000 mi)with me, and I have been driving a 2003 Jetta (150,000 miles), which I am keeping. I just bought a 2011 Jetta Sportwagen TDI, which answers your question. The name amuses me, as only someone my age (70++) thinks that it's sporty!
I was so disgusted by my experience with the "finance manager" when we bought our new 2003 TDI, I doubt that I'll ever buy a brand new car again...
Add to this the cavalier attitude of either ignoring the problem or blaming the customer so far displayed by both VW and the dealership network when it comes to standing behind any major problems that may come up (balance shaft modules on Passats, high-pressure fuel pumps on the CR models - and we haven't yet heard of what happens to those fancy exhaust systems after a couple of years), and the likelihood of my buying a new TDI diminishes yet again...
At least I know and can fix the ALH-engined vehicles, so for the foreseeable future, I'll be sticking with those...
My 2 cents...
Yuri
Add to this the cavalier attitude of either ignoring the problem or blaming the customer so far displayed by both VW and the dealership network when it comes to standing behind any major problems that may come up (balance shaft modules on Passats, high-pressure fuel pumps on the CR models - and we haven't yet heard of what happens to those fancy exhaust systems after a couple of years), and the likelihood of my buying a new TDI diminishes yet again...
At least I know and can fix the ALH-engined vehicles, so for the foreseeable future, I'll be sticking with those...
My 2 cents...
Yuri
This is a very debatable subject some of us have good and bad VWs, much like anything else. Personally I'll stick with my ALH. This is a engine that my trusted mechanic can work on. I feel that this model gives me the best mileage thats what I care about. It's a different car with chip & injectors for those who say they lack power.
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The new Common Rail diesel here in North America... I will buy one when an original owner gets sick of the maintenance costs and constantly throwing parts at it, probably around a little after 120,000 miles, when the DPF and Nox filters go out of warranty. All the plumbing, and all the sensors to fail on this car are, in my opinion, a Pandora's Box of potential problems and failures. VW of America will make bank on these in service charges and repairs, because they are The Devil to work on... there is waaaaaaaaaay too much plastic under the hood, being exposed to high heat, including the plastic gears that drive the air inlet control to keep the NoX down, which will be very, very expensive FAILS when the gears strip out. There are already some cars with 80 to 100k miles on them and these parts are stripping out/cracking. Plastic near engine heat makes for bad design and short MTBF.
The new CR diesels, IMHO, are going to nickle and dime the owners to death on them, killing any savings on fuel and high MPG.
The new CR diesels, IMHO, are going to nickle and dime the owners to death on them, killing any savings on fuel and high MPG.
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