[domo51]

I have a Mk6 Gt diesel and the rear tyres have worn on the inside edges. VW tell me its just one of those things l have to put up with. This would mean changing my tyres every 2 years. l think it's towing out. ls anyone else having the same problem.

 

[speedracer1407]

I'm not sure what sort of suspension calibrations your car has (assuming it's a UK spec car), but it seems pretty odd that the inside edges of your rear tires (ahem, i mean tyres) should wear so quickly. Did you get an alignment?

Excessive static negative camber (the top of the wheels would appear "knock-kneed") can cause excessive wear of the inside edges.

From my observations, US spec cars, including the GTI, don't have much static negative camber, so a bad toe alignment seems more likely to cause accelerated tire wear more evenly across the tread.

With that said, do you regularly carry a heavy load in the back of your car? The geometry of the 4 link rear suspension induces both dynamic negative camber and toe-in with compression (for handling), so driving around with a heavy load may compress the suspension enough to cause the tires to ride along the inside edges while also scrubbing away with toe-in.

Just a hunch.

 

[Bropot]

? Have the alignment checked. It's just one of those things you have to put up with...you mean VW service!

 

[Keithuk]

Correct explanation speedracer1407, get the geometry checked?

 

[brian1]

I have a VW golf 2.0 GTI TDI, the rear tyres developed a wheel bearing noise that turned out to be the rear tyres wearing the inside track of the tyres. I had the tracking checked and it is spot on and within the VW vehilce Spec.
I have scoured the internet to an answer to this problem and the long and short of it is VW DO NOT GIVE A DAMN about this, The only reasonable answer I can find is that Vw have problems with certain tyes on the back of Golfs and other vehicles, I have Bridgestones which are now very noisy and wearing unevenly so I will be buying Conti next and hope that they are going to be better.

 

[kaicrufts0]

I have found from personal experience that the toe in settings are to blame for premature wear both my mk5 and know my mk6 have had this problem a simple trip to a local four wheel alignment specialist should sought your probs no matter what tyres you fit

 

[Keithuk]

Welcome to the forum. welcometomyturbodies

Yes rear tyre wear on the inside edge has been reports on forums before there is no point in posting the link as you would have to join the forum to read it, stupid idea.

What make of tyre are they? Are the tyres noisy?

An 09 should still be under warranty take it back for investigation.

The rear toe and camber are adjustable.

Please add GT to the Golf 09 and UK after Abingdon just for reference but he hasn't been back since so it sounds like another info grabber?

 

[BARNABY THE BEAR]

I have been suffering with the same excessive noise. I took it to the dealer on warranty to be checked and they just told me it is a tyre defect happening on some golfs causing the tyre to bulge. They wanted to replace the 2 tyres at a cost of £300 and said (in writing) rotating the tyres to the front at each service should solve the problem.

I took the car to my usual tyre dealer and straight away he showed me the wear (not bulges) on the inner surface and said as stated above that it was either worn suspension or the geometry.

He also said new tyres weren't necessary as there was alot of tread left, but the noise was getting unbearable.
I replaced one as it the other was ok and only just over a year old.

I'm very dissapointed that the so called specialists didnt come up with this simple answer and could have cost me £300 in new tyres only for the same thing to happen.

I own a VW Golf 2009 GT TDI 140.

I'm about to contact the dealer...........

 

[xeno555]

Nothing beats a four wheel lazer(laser) alignment & get a before "alignment printout" and after alignment printout. Usually frame shops or larger body shops have these machines.

As stated above, the rear is fully adjustable.

If you know the full history of the car & know the unibody is not bent, alignment should solve it...

 

[clownuk]

my other car is a landrover discovery and ive set my wheels to have no toe in and it steers real nice, and has less tyre wear, makes me wonder why other cars have this toe in going on. is it to keep heat in the tyres

 

[Keithuk]

Welcome to the forum. welcometomyturbodies

my other car is a landrover discovery and ive set my wheels to have no toe in and it steers real nice, and has less tyre wear,

What the hell does a Landrover Discovery have to do with a Golf wearing rear tyres? werd

 

[clownuk]

all im saying is, why do we we need toe in on the back wheels, as the back follows the front wheels.

 

[Keithuk]

Sorry if this is an old thread but I know of the VW Technical product information for these saw tooth rear tyre wear from another forum.

Not just the GT, GTD, GTI but ALL Golf 5 and 6 plus Passat 3C and anything based on these platforms. Some makes of tyre or more susceptible than others. This is VW's official line on the subject.

Technical product information Transaction No.: 2019800/1

Saw Tooth Tyre Wear Release date: 23-Dec-2008

Customer statement / workshop findings
Saw tooth tyre wear / tyre noise.

Technical background
A Major cause of annoying tyre / road noise is “Heal and Toe wearâ€. This is the outwardly visible (and audible) manifestation of various distortional forces at work on the tread. To explain this, it is better to first say something about “tread designâ€.
Tread grooves and sipes – a source of noise – are absolutely essential in ensuring safety on wet and flooded roads. In the case of low profile tyres in particular, a higher percentage of tread void is necessary to take up and channel the water, while a hydrodynamic tread pattern design is needed to ensure water displacement.
The upshot of this is “detached blocks†in the shoulders. Because of how the tyre rolls over the road, the blocks can suffer heel and toe wear under certain operating conditions.
When a tyre rolls, the individual blocks in the tread are deformed.
On entry into the contact patch, the blocks are compressed. In exiting the contact patch, the blocks rub against the road surface and spring back to their original shape, resulting in higher abrasion where the lug tapers off.
This wear pattern is more likely to occur on non powered wheel positions.
If the tyre is driven in compliance with the specific operating conditions, the difference in height between the front and rear edges of the block does not exceed 0.8mm, a level at which no noticeable deterioration in the tyre’s characteristics is to be expected. More conspicuous heel and toe wear points to specific operating conditions (improper inflation pressures, excessive toe in, driving style).
To arrive at an improvement in the tyre wear pattern and a relative reduction in road noise it is imperative that tyre pressures are maintained regularly in accordance with the manufacturers specification. Also rotating the wheels has the effect of evenly distributing wear, so that the tyre returns to its original favourable noise level after a certain distance.
Above all please remember that tyre wear is unavoidable as a frictional force must be present between the tyre and road surface.

Production change
No change.

Measure
No change.

 

[LongTallNick]

Golf MK VI Rear Inner Tyre Wear!

I own a 2010 MKVI VW Golf 2.0GT TDi and have rear inner tyre wear problems!

Last year the car wore out a pair of Dunlop SP tyres on the inner edge only 6mm outer, 6mm middle 0mm inner.

I changed these for Michelin and already this year they are 5mm outer, 5mm middle, 3mm inner.

This year my VW dealer told me it's because i drive most of my miles alone, (I don't) where the car has been designed to carry two adults (inc driver) and the weight of a small child in the rear! Shame they didn't open the rear of the car and see the 35-40kg of demo product I always acrry in my car before telling me this!

Last year they told me it was faulty tyres (the ones that were supplied new with the car by them?)....

Anyone discovered a solution or tyres that wear more evenly?

 

[RobertA]

Silly that VW won't/can't straighten out the alignment, especially if a car is under warranty. They have alignment specialists. It might just take some real pressure to get them to do the full alignment, if that's possible.

 

[xeno555]

...
This year my VW dealer told me it's because i drive most of my miles alone, (I don't) where the car has been designed to carry two adults (inc driver) and the weight of a small child in the rear!
...

This is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard of, in a while. Thanks for the good laugh.