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I have a 2003 Passat. The FCC ID in the remote is HLO 1J0959753 AM (date code 4/03)

I recently bought a new remote . The FCC number is HLO 130 959753 DC. (date code 11/09)

The seller says they are 100 % compatible.
Can anyone here tell me if they are and that the new remote can be programmed( its a new unprogrammed chip.

Thanks for any and all replies !
 

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Forgot to add

I read posts here that warn that immo2,immo3, immo4 and r imobilzers are NOT compatible.

So I guess what I need to know is if an FCC ID of HLO 130959753 DC is Immo 3? ( my 2003 system , I believe)

Thanks again for any info!
 

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Yes, immo2-immo3 keys and systems are not compatible.

Your 2003 Passat has immo3 since the key part numbers are for immo3 keys. The FCC # you gave on the old and new key is actually the VW part number. Your old key has the old part number. The new key part number superseded the old key part number so to the best of my knowledge, they are compatible. Refer to this page: http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q/a4/vw-smart-key-remote-replacement.htm where it gives the part numbers.

As long as it's a brand new key it'll work. You just have to program the remote to unlock the doors and program the immobilizer (need the SKC number) to prevent engine shut off.

As stated in the immo2 and immo3 FAQ, the final check to see if you have immo3 is this: if you have VCDS you can go to this screen and if you see your VIN number you have immo3.
 

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THANK YOU !!! for the information!

I live in Mass where there is a new law called "Right to repair" which will (hopefully) put an end to the incredible rip offs ( VW dealers in particular) perpetrate with their "proprietary"
business practices to "lock out " competitors"
The first thing you hear is "if you didn't buy it from us ( at rip off prices) we won't cut the key and program it. There is something totally obscene about these rip off artist dealers charging $250 to $300 for a backup key/remote ????? Also, having recently aquired this pretty nice 2003 Passat with 95k on it is that the next rip off is shelling out a thousand dollars for the timing belt /water pump replacement....??? Unbelievable !
I'm inclined to get a backup remote /key ( and glue the imobilizer chip near the ignition) and unload this high maintenance , outrageously expensive to maintain, predatory dealer money maker and move on to a car that doesn't require a $1k maintenance @100k mile rip off...What I lesson I've learned about just how bad VW dealers really are.

Thanks again for the info! Now i'm off to be abused by the local dealers to try to get a key cut and try to find one that doesn't give me the "we can't cut that key because it will damage our key machine... sickening
 

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There was a class action lawsuit so now there are a few independent locksmiths who are authorized to program the keys the same way VW dealers do it, without aftermarket tools.

The Passat is a nice car but all cars need maintenance. A VW specialist could do the TB for $300-500+parts. All cars driven by timing belts need to have them serviced but the car will run quieter and better with a new belt. Cars that use chains slowly get slack in the chain and get noisy. The chain lasts a lot longer but when it's time to replace it, as one example, any engines require you to pull the entire engine! The VW Jetta 2.5L engine requires you to remove the transmission to get access to the chain!

Hopefully the nice drive will make you feel a little better. And while it has a lot of things specific to the TDI engine, feel free to look through the new owner checklist for the B5 Passat. Many things will apply to your 2004 GLS as well.
 

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FYI in case you didn't know, when you replace the timing belt/water pump, you also replace the rollers and tensioner. I've heard the 1.8T engine likes TB changes every 80k.
 

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Calmed down

Thanks for the calming words. I realize that a VW Passat is a more "high end " car and as a consequence ,requires more maintenance. Any vehicle that red lines at 6.5k and reads to 160MPH has got to be a high maintenance item .It's really a nice car actually. I actually have fallen in love with the car but I guess what angers me is the attitude of VW dealers who abuse their proprietary status.

Anyway, I really appreciate the info you gave me. This car will be my "summer car" from April-Nov. I'm really looking forward to transferring the plates from my winter car to the VW next march. One way or the other I'll get the belt/pump maintenance done. Not to boast but I'm a pretty accomplished mechanic and after reading the procedure for doing the Belt/pump maintenance, I was horrified.
Better to shell out the $1k to have it done ,,,,,especially when the "correct tools " Torque wrenches" idler tensional procedures, etc, are followed. I couldn't believe that you pretty much have to remove the entire front nose of this vehicle just to get at things.

Thank you again for your incredible knowledge and responses to my questions (and ignorance)
RJ
 

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Hi i found a site online that will cut the keys from a photo. it cost me just £9.99 including delivery to get a working blade cut after many shops refused to cut the blank i already had with my replacement key fob. The site is http://www.keysinthepost.com/
 
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