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I'm hearing anywhere from $1000 - $3400 under MSRP. $3400 is an extreme data point but that would be a very good deal.

Considering the equipment they come with, these cars are priced very competitively with the VW Jetta.
 

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The "Other" subforum was removed since it wasn't too busy and didn't have a clear distinction of stuff to go in there vs. other subforums.

The site was originally VAG but if people want to come here for Cruze diesel stuff I'd like to welcome them and grow the site.

So how much did you pay for your Chevy Cruze? I'm hearing some decent discounts off MSRP even though they're a new car.
 

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Does this mean you are going to buy one? Still not convinced on the run flats. That is a deal breaker for me, get a flat somewhere far away and you will sit till a tire can be shipped in. That is not a good scenario. That and the auto tragic.
 

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No, not in the market for a new car nor have I ever bought a new car (too cheap :D) However, I know some people who make parts for the TDI are about to buy a Cruze diesel and start developing parts for it. The engine comes with an overboost of up to 10 seconds to boost torque to 280 but the brochure doesn't say it boosts HP. That seems like an easy place for gains.
 

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I am curious, who makes the diesel engine?

I think Daewoo makes the Aveo gas engine
 

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No, not in the market for a new car nor have I ever bought a new car (too cheap :D) However, I know some people who make parts for the TDI are about to buy a Cruze diesel and start developing parts for it. The engine comes with an overboost of up to 10 seconds to boost torque to 280 but the brochure doesn't say it boosts HP. That seems like an easy place for gains.
Fair enough. Last new car I bought was a 98 MK III tdi of all things. Long gone now, Like you, I do not like to take the hit on depreciation. Get more satisfaction working on a "well used" car than owning a worry free new car. That is just no fun for a car guy. And do not even think about buying a GM car when you are anywhere near former GM bond holders. They will burn you at the stake, and then get nasty with you. Those guys will not forget the shaft they got from the government.
 

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I am curious, who makes the diesel engine?

I think Daewoo makes the Aveo gas engine
All I can find is that GM makes it. They sold 33,000 Cruze diesels in 2012, just not in North America. Here is some stuff from their press kit:

For Cruze, powertrain engineers at GM’s diesel center of excellence in Torino, Italy, are working daily with counterparts in Pontiac, Mich., to develop a world-class engine that delivers outstanding fuel efficiency and torque while providing a smooth, quiet ride. In addition, GM engineers in Russelsheim, Germany, are supporting the program by developing the accessory drive, acoustic cover and other specialized components.
Here are some tech details on it:

iron cylinder block and a forged steel crankshaft
aluminum cylinder head and aluminum intake manifold
engine weighs 408 lbs
Dual overhead camshafts with four valves per cylinder and maintenance-free hydraulic lifters with low-friction roller-finger followers
aluminum pistons with reinforced top ring and integral combustion bowl design
Variable-swirl intake manifold design
Common-rail fuel system with Piezo fuel injectors
Variable-displacement oil pump helps save fuel by optimizing the oil pressure, which reduces friction
Ceramic glow plugs
B20 bio-diesel compatibility

Transmission is a AF40 made in Japan by Aisin.
 

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All I can find is that GM makes it. They sold 33,000 Cruze diesels in 2012, just not in North America. Here is some stuff from their press kit:



Here are some tech details on it:

iron cylinder block and a forged steel crankshaft
aluminum cylinder head and aluminum intake manifold
engine weighs 408 lbs
Dual overhead camshafts with four valves per cylinder and maintenance-free hydraulic lifters with low-friction roller-finger followers
aluminum pistons with reinforced top ring and integral combustion bowl design
Variable-swirl intake manifold design
Common-rail fuel system with Piezo fuel injectors
Variable-displacement oil pump helps save fuel by optimizing the oil pressure, which reduces friction
Ceramic glow plugs
B20 bio-diesel compatibility

Transmission is a AF40 made in Japan by Aisin.
Several of the car mags did intro stories on the Cruze when it hit the market and I think one of the articles said the engine was from the Opel division in Europe. IIRC the article said it is built by Fiat. Might've been Car and Driver, August issue? Don't remember now and those mags are long in the recycling bin.
 

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Found a few more details. Engine is by Opel, assembled in Kaiserslautern, Germany, designed in Torino, Italy and Ruesselsheim, Germany. Almost the same as the Euro engine except for the Urea system to meet US emissions, ceramic glow plugs, and small change to the intake, probably for emissions (unknown reason).
 

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my car has no spare, with OnStar and inflator kit i feel safe. 25,000 no flats yet - pay attention to what you driver over. plus you have tire pressure indication and monthly equipment health report from OnStar to your email to alert you to trends. this is a common approach now for weight reduction, also common in Corvettes.
 

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The cruze TD is a joint venture between GM Europe (Opel) and Fiat. i read this in Car and Driver. This engine has been in use for about 15 years already as Opel (mainland) and Vauxhall (UK).

here is techie description of the AF-40 six speed transmission (obviously plucked from the REgal drive train, also built by Opel in Germany):

2011 AISIN-WARNER AF40-6 SIX-SPEED FWD/AWD AUTOMATIC (MDK)

Vehicle Applications
Buick Regal CXL Turbo

Product Highlights
High ratio spread of 6.05:1 for optimal fuel economy and smoothness
Neutral idle feature enhances fuel economy
Selective Sport Mode
Manual Shift Control
Maximum engine torque capacity of 295 lb.-ft. (400 Nm)
Maximum gearbox torque capacity TBD

Overview
The Aisin-Warner AF40-6 is a compact, lightweight, electronically controlled six-speed automatic transaxle for front-wheel-drive and all-wheel-drive applications. It is used in the front-drive Buick Regal CXL Turbo (MDK) and the Cadillac SRX equipped with the 2.8L V-6 VVT turbo (MXE). A high ratio spread of 6.05:1 helps deliver optimal fuel economy, while also supporting smooth, quiet highway performance.

The MXE version has a higher torque capacity of 332 lb.-ft. (450 Nm) vs. the MDK’s 295 lb.-ft. (400 Nm).

A unique combination of a conventional five-pinion planetary gear set and a compound Ravignaux gearset – known as a Le Pelletier arrangement – makes the AF40-6 very lightweight and compact. Shifts are managed by a sophisticated transmission control module (TCM) that oversees clutch-to-clutch actuation, while gear changes are accomplished by one clutch engaging the instant the clutch from the previous gear disengages.

The TCM is located inside the transmission housing, which reduces complexity and provides a consistent environment that promotes greater durability. It also enables special features including driver-selectable manual-shift mode and sport mode. The manual-shift mode allows the driver to control gear shifts, while the sport mode alters the shifting pattern to deliver a more performance-oriented driving experience.

Additional details of the AF40-6 include:
Lightweight die-cast aluminum housing
Neutral idle feature, which helps reduce internal temperature and enhances fuel economy
High-pressure clutch hydraulic control system delivers smoother, more immediate gear shift feel
“Filled for lifeâ€￾ low-friction oil

The AF40-6 uses a six-element, dual-stage torque converter with a lock-up clutch that helps optimize fuel economy.
 

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If I weren't concerned with depreciation...

I'd buy one of these in a second. My '03 jetta wagon is still a fantastic car and there's no proof that a Cruze would be safer (this is the only argument I could truly see making a dent in my "never bought a new car, never will" mentality)...
But it sure is nice looking.
:)
 

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I just bought my 2014 Chevy Cruze Turbo Diesel yesterday - fortunately, I have the GM Supplier discount available along with the USAA member discount . . . my car has the Convenience Package, Enhanced Safety Package, and a front license plate bracket.

Here is the breakdown:

Base MSRP = $24,885
Colors & Options = $1,185
Delivery & Handling = $810
Total MSRP = $26,880
GM Supplier Price = $26,197
Current Offers = -$1,000
Net Price = $25,197
USAA Discount = -$750
Final Price = $24,447
 

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I am a VW enthusiast since 1977 when I bought the first Rabbit diesel the dealer sold. I've driven nothing but VW's since then. My current VW's are a 2001 GTI GLX and a 2004 R32. On October 2nd, I bought a new Chevy Cruze TD. Does that make me a traitor? The Price I paid is available on request.
 

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interested but....

No manual

I'd prefer independent rear suspension.

Otherwise it looks like an excellent car!

I can't get away from taking off the new Golf or the current Passat from my short list.

Just waiting to see if Mazda figures out problems with its diesel and then I'll make my choice.

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I am a VW enthusiast since 1977 when I bought the first Rabbit diesel the dealer sold. I've driven nothing but VW's since then. My current VW's are a 2001 GTI GLX and a 2004 R32. On October 2nd, I bought a new Chevy Cruze TD. Does that make me a traitor? I paid - $3800 MSRP bottom line.
 
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