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DSG Transmission shifted by itself.

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I just bought a 2010 Jetta TDI w/ DSG. I has just been driven more than 1400 miles in two months. On highway, I tried to reve it up to full range of rpm on manual. At 4500 rpm on the 4th gear, it automatically jumped to 5th gear. I did tried one more time. It happened again.
In city, it repeated this jumping from the 3rd to 4th gear at 4500 rpm, not to hold up at 3rd gear to 5000 rpm.
Is it normal or defected ? Any ones have the same experiences?
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Did you know that there is a recall for the temperature sensor in the DSG transmission? It only affects a range of cars, not all DSG. It causes false neutrals and shifting problems. It's possible that it could be related but I'm not sure. Maybe if you upsized the tires it could change the shifting because the speed is off what it thinks? This is just a total guess.

I believe that the DSG should rev all the way to redline. Unfortunately I don't have a DSG so maybe others can chime in on this one.
How Do We know for Sure

I read the recall was for cars built through August of 2009. I assume my car delivered 10/8 was built after? I have had a few hesitations or a hiccup except that when I looked down I was in manual mode and forgot to shift!
What are the exact symtoms?

thanks

mar
I noticed this during the test drive before I bought mine. The salesman told me it was normal operation. There no true manual mode with the DSG or, from what I understand, any other manufacturer of similar transmissions. I have also read that there is no point in operating at or near red line with a TDI due to the fact that at that point you are well past the peak torque, so why would you want to?
Refer to the FAQ on this forum for Break-in New Engine, I try to run full RPM when my car has more than 1000miles to set in the piston rings and clear the accumulating soots in the muffler.
In addition you can read more about "Break In" per this link
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?p=464223
No where in the FAQ on this sit (myturbodiesel.com) does the author recommend running at or near redline, it suggests not to. Also understand, and he points this out, that the RPM does not equate to % power. If you really want to load up the engine fill the car up with passengers and stuff the trunk, then run it up a steep hill.
I do have a writeup for breaking in the engine where it says that revving it up to redline is OK once the engine is well broken in but it really won't do anything that loading up the engine won't do. http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q/enginebreakin.htm My opinion is that you will be fine either way but people wanted some recommendations so I wrote an article.

One of the problems I have with the writeup on the other site is that the author implies that good compression and no oil consumption will happen if you follow his engine break in technique. I attribute long term engine health to long term maintenance, good warm up, and good engine oil, not break in. The car will break in one way or another with a normal driver and normal driving habits. It won't blow up if you don't follow my recommendations either.

You are correct that RPM =/= power because you can rev it in neutral and you won't be making much power. But too much load is also not good. For example, lugging the engine at a low rpm and high load.

Really, engine break in is important but your car won't blow up if it gets a little more or a little less. For example, I've heard that the first 20 minutes of operation on a camshaft is the most important. That 20 minutes was already done at the factory and on/off the delivery truck, around the dealer, etc. And some pumpe duse camshafts have been wearing and I feel that it had nothing to do with engine breakin, it's due to other unknown factors like a design/manufacturing problem. I say this because even though some engines got pumpe duse engine oil they still got cam wear.
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I just bought a 2010 Jetta TDI w/ DSG. I has just been driven more than 1400 miles in two months. On highway, I tried to reve it up to full range of rpm on manual. At 4500 rpm on the 4th gear, it automatically jumped to 5th gear. I did tried one more time. It happened again.
In city, it repeated this jumping from the 3rd to 4th gear at 4500 rpm, not to hold up at 3rd gear to 5000 rpm.
Is it normal or defected ? Any ones have the same experiences?
It is normal. The engine is redlined at 4,500 RPM (with peak horsepower at 4,000 RPM and peak torque from 1,750 - 2,500 RPM). My 2009 DSG shifts at 4,500 RPM in manual mode.
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