How far do they have you bent over?
I assume TSI is a typo. All those charges are at the same time, valid and also baloney. They are actual charges but at the same time, should be absorbed by the dealer. Some places won't budge on "delivery + prep + documentation", it depends on the dealer and state and what's the local norm. Prep involves peeling the plastic covering off and going through a checklist. They normally charge you about $200/hour for prep and judging by the number of complaints on leaving the suspension blockers in, they don't even do it. Documentation is the fee they pay to the DMV to get you plates. Delivery is also a fee they pay but it's $750 so the math doesn't add up: $349 + $550? Personally, I would not pay the floor plan interest, prep port, or ad fee, and would question the other stuff.Discussion or posting about 'What is a legitimate charge by the dealer when buying a new TDI and
what should not be paid.'
I'm sure I read it here, but perhaps not?
Reason for asking is:
Dealer [removed unless the message sender wants to fill it in] is saying on their invoice that they charge for '[removed] Ad Association'
$200, 'Full Tank and Internet Reserve' $182, and 'Port Prep Fee' $25.
:BS
These seem like mickey mouse fees to me and I do not recall ever seeing such baloney on any invoice before. :dunno
Am I all wet, or is this just a way for the dealers to maximize profits on these supposedly hard to get TSI JSWs with DSG.
Sorry to be so long winded, but I need to know so I won't be screwed blued and barbecued!
In another case, a friend of mine was told by a dealer that he could buy a hard-to-find Volkswagen for $500 over invoice. When the contract arrived, the dealers had added a $349 fee for "D&H" or "delivery and handling" charge. This charge was added to the contract despite the fact that the invoice already contained the following charges: $550 for the destination charge, $200 ad fee, $92 for "floor plan interest reserve" and a $25 "port prep fee."
After checking with industry sources, it is Edmunds' position that fees on the manufacturer's invoice are not negotiable. However, if duplicate fees (such as the "D&H" fee in this VW contract) are written into the contract by the dealer, these additional charges can be challenged.
Someone wrote me and I thought I'd reply in the forums so everyone can see. Identifying info removed
I assume TSI is a typo. All those charges are at the same time, valid and also baloney. They are actual charges but at the same time, should be absorbed by the dealer. Some places won't budge on "delivery + prep + documentation", it depends on the dealer and state and what's the local norm. Prep involves peeling the plastic covering off and going through a checklist. They normally charge you about $200/hour for prep and judging by the number of complaints on leaving the suspension blockers in, they don't even do it. Documentation is the fee they pay to the DMV to get you plates. Delivery is also a fee they pay but it's $750 so the math doesn't add up: $349 + $550? Personally, I would not pay the floor plan interest, prep port, or ad fee, and would question the other stuff.
Why not charge you for the phone calls to you or a employee worker's comp insurance surcharge? Those are valid costs too but I don't think any buyer would stand for those. http://www.edmunds.com/advice/strategies/articles/59651/article.html here is some more opinion on those
Those guys are straight shooters; they've been around for a long time in a very affluent part of the state and wouldn't risk their reputation. On the other side of the coin, I've seen dealers list their sold orders on their website and then when you go there (of course, they won't disclose anything over the phone) they don't have anything near their online inventory.I notice that they are a small dealership as their stock is rather limited.
No Jetta or Golf TDIs in stock seems strange, but perhaps they do have
'em but don't want everyone to really know what the true invoice is?
I hope that they do not have any and are simply not hiding the facts.: