VW held a regional meeting today and these items were discussed. This info was posted on another VW site.
I just came back with a regional meeting with VW Factory reps. We were able to get pretty good information and updates about all new VW products, which I am sharing with you here.
Just to get it out of the way – Golf R – no plans on the horizon, which means that it is not going to happen for 2011 or 2012, if ever.
New Touareg: will be released in October, V6 and V6 TDI. Limited number of hybrids (600) will be released later. Reportedly – very close to the Cayenne, not much on the gas mileage, but more on performance, supposed to have towing capacity of 7,700 Lbs. Not every dealer will be selling them – the tool kit for service will cost at least $3,000, and technicians will have to go through a week long training.
NMS – the Passat replacement is schedule to come out next summer, the name has nto been finalized, it could be “Passat”, or they could change it.
New “New” Beetle – will be out next summer followed by Convertible.
Tiguan – facelift next year
Eos – facelift next year
And the main topic – NCS, or the new Jetta. The car will be about 3″ longer than the MKV, and will look like a mix between the current Jetta and Audi A4. There are no plans yet for coupe to go into production.
Schedule: gas model to arrive in limited numbers in September, followed by mass production, TDI to arrive in January, and GLI to arrive in May.
Trim configuration – we didn’t have any materials to take with us, so I have only some details I was able to catch, but it should be enough to give you an idea:
Jetta S1 – 2.0, 115 hp, 15″ steel wheels, no AC, no radio
Jetta S2 – same car with AC and radio
SE1 – 2.5, 170 hp, leatherette
SE2 – Bluetooth and alloys, sunroof
SE3 – Premium 8 sound system
SEL1 -navigation and 17″s
SEL2 – same with sunroof
SEL3 – same with sport package
TDI1 – similar to the current one
TDI2 – with nav
GLI1 – 2.0T, 17″, sport suspension
GLI2 – sunroof
GLI3 – navigation
General points: the new sound system – RSD-310 will be standard, and Premium 8 will be an upgrade from SE3. Also there will be two nav systems available – the new smaller one, and the RNS-510. There will be no separate options, such as sunroof, or iPod adaptor, everything will be packaged.
IMHO a Jetta with a 115 engine and no AC/radio will drag down the image of the entire line. The Audi A5 used to have an exclusive image because it was only V8 and rare. Now they have it with the 2.0L and although it's still pretty fast it drags done the V8 image. How can they move the Jetta upmarket while also moving it downmarket? Is this to make room for the next Passat?
Watching the unveil at http://www.vw.com/upcomingcars/en/us/ in a few minutes (at 11:25 am) Edit: The countdown meter went to 0 at 11:25 and it's already been 5 minutes with nothing available. They should have some filler material to account for delays.
Edit: I finally have some music and a player but no video. Edit: OK, I can see footage of NY times square.
Watching the unveil at http://www.vw.com/upcomingcars/en/us/ in a few minutes (at 11:25 am) Edit: The countdown meter went to 0 at 11:25 and it's already been 5 minutes with nothing available. They should have some filler material to account for delays.
Edit: I finally have some music and a player but no video. Edit: OK, I can see footage of NY times square.
Well I guess it doesn't have rear drum brakes....maybe if you order a very base one. From what I understand, the last one, the Jetta 5 moved upmarket and this one will stay about the same but also have strippers available.
The archaic 2.slow engine with 115 hp will be in the US. I can't believe they would sell a car with no AC and no radio but I guess they want to be very aggressive with pricing to get people into the showrooms and then sell them a higher end one.
Seeing the official pictures you can see that as mentioned above, the models will be S, SE, SEL, and GLI. It's possible the TDI will be its own trim level but in the past TDI were TDI GL or TDI GLX so I dunno. As mentioned above, since both the RNS 315 and RNS 510 will be available I'm guessing that the RNS 510 will be the optional one on the higher end models and the RNS 315 would be the optional one on the lower models. Maybe not but I can't imagine anyone spending that much on a factory nav when the car doesn't have AC.
VW's press release: Volkswagen Announces World Debut Of All-New 2011 Jetta, Delivering Sophisticated Style At An Accessible Price
All-new 2011 Jetta Sets New Standard in its Class Delivering Sophisticated Style, Precision German Engineering and Carefree Maintenance at an Accessible Price
HERNDON, Va., June 15 -- Volkswagen of America, Inc. today announced the world debut of its all-new 2011 Jetta, delivering style, precision German engineering and Carefree Maintenance, all at an extremely accessible price. At a starting price point of around $16,000, the all-new 2011 Jetta offers best in class rear legroom, a premium interior and Volkswagen essentials. Unveiled for the first time today at an unexpected urban oasis in Times Square, New York, the all-new 2011 Jetta features clean lines, refined side architecture and premium style combined with Volkswagen’s trademark precision German engineering. The all-new 2011 Jetta sets a new standard in its class and will be available in the U.S. this October.
“Today marks the beginning of a new era for Volkswagen and for Jetta,” said Stefan Jacoby, CEO of Volkswagen Group of America, Inc. “The all-new 2011 Jetta is a class-up driving experience with the kind of styling, design and power under the hood normally found in more expensive luxury cars. At an extremely attractive price, this car is sophisticated, fun to drive and practical.”
Engine and Transmission
The North American version of the all-new 2011 Jetta features the powerful and efficient German engineering drivers have come to expect from Volkswagen. Four engines will be available in the U.S. and Canada, including a 2.0-liter turbodiesel direct injection (TDI) Clean Diesel featuring common rail injection with 236 lbs-ft. of torque (320 Newton-meters). The engine runs as quietly as a gasoline engine, but yields the power of a sports car achieving 0-60 mph in 8.7 seconds. Additional engines include the 2.0, 2.5 R5, and as of 2011, the 2.0 TSI. All Jetta engines will be offered with a manual transmission as standard equipment. An automatic transmission will also be available with each engine version as an option. On the new 2.0-liter TDI and 2.0-liter TSI, Volkswagen will offer the 6-speed DSG – one of the most advanced and efficient automatic transmission systems in the world. In the U.S., S, SE, SEL and TDI versions of the Jetta will be available, as will a 2.0-liter GLI.
Exterior
The all-new 2011 Jetta has been completely overhauled, inside and out. Its new wheelbase and exterior length are significantly bigger than its predecessor – resulting in superior performance, more space and greater comfort. At 182.7-inches long, 57.1 inches tall and 70.1 inches wide, it is more than 3.5 inches longer than its predecessors. The interplay of exterior dimensions leads to a powerful balance of proportions. In parallel, the new Volkswagen ‘design DNA’ sharpens the car’s styling. This has resulted in clear, precise lines and athletically muscular surfaces, which lend a timeless elegance and dynamic styling to the sedan.
On the front end of the car, the prominence of horizontal lines defines the design. The high-gloss black radiator grille combines with the car’s trapezoidal headlights to form a styling unit. Under this is the fully painted bumper, which is designed as cleanly as a sculpted surface. Below that, another cooling air intake and the tray-shaped front spoiler gives the car a sporty finish. The upper front end section shows a powerful transition from the v-shaped engine hood to the fenders on the sides; the shoulder section realized here derived from the NCC concept car, and provides dynamic and muscular styling.
The styling characteristics in the side profile of the Jetta meld into yet another interpretation of the ‘design DNA’ conceptualized by Walter de Silva, the Italian Head of Design for the Volkswagen Group and the German Head of Design for the Volkswagen Brand, Klaus Bischoff. A great example of the unique styling characteristics is found in the shoulder or ‘tornado’ line and the powerfully emphasized arches of the wheel wells. Formally, they intersect the large homogeneous surfaces, conveying a strong dynamic image. Thanks to wide track dimensions, the wheel arches also form a precise transition – as though cut with a knife – up to the tires, which could be as much as 18-inches.
With integrated turn signal indicators, the styling of the outside mirrors emulates the larger CC. Compared with the previous model, the all-new Jetta has grown in clarity and pre-eminence in its side profile. Harmonized surfaces and sporty shoulders dominate the rear section. Powerful in illumination and visually distinctive, the taillights are split into two sections, extending on either side from the fender into the tailgate.
Interior
A key benefit of the extended wheelbase is that it resulted in a more comfortable layout of the five-seat rear seating area. Legroom is now a long 38.1 inches, a 2.6-inch gain from the previous model. Customers looking for a more personalized touch can for the first time have interior accents changed out at a Volkswagen dealer.
Engineers went to work on the interior down to the finest details, providing a level of quality and perfection far beyond other vehicles in its class. A common conceptual thread throughout the car is the intuitive controls and well-arranged instruments. The new steering wheel designs impress both visually and to the touch. The right hand rests ergonomically on the gear shift grip. Further up on the center console are the newly designed and intuitive controls for climate, radio and radio-navigation systems. This console section is slightly inclined toward the driver for ideal alignment of the cockpit. Also in optimal view are the round instruments. The multifunction display (trip computer) is located between them.
The rear bench seatback is split 40/60 and folds, increasing the car’s versatility. The tailgate can also be opened from inside the car by a remote unlock switch. Up to six airbags (two front airbags, two side airbags in front, two window airbags/thorax airbags in the area of the front side windows) are also part of the equipment package.
Safety
Previous Jetta versions received accolades for safety with features like electronic stability control and tire pressure monitoring standard. The all-new 2011 Jetta has been further enhanced with even more protections and crash safety improvements
Yes, that's where the ESP electronic stability control button used to be. It's not well placed since people stuff their knick knacks there. It's also blocked by the center console and shifter and harder to reach. That's like putting the radio buttons on the floor. IIRC, the keyless start button on the GLI is where the ignition key slot is. That seems a more logical place to put it. Pic below from ask a vw salesguy's blog. It's called KESSY when paired with "no touch" keyless entry where the doors unlock as you approach the door. I'm not sure if the Jetta gets "no touch" keyless entry since the button is stuck onto the center console and this feature hasn't been confirmed on the 2011 Jetta.
Also, did they get rid of the front ashtray cover or is it open?
A few thoughts: How can you cycle the glow plugs before starting the engine? If you are having a runaway engine, are you going to have to press and hold the button for 3 seconds before the engine shuts off *if the car is in motion? No thanks, I'll stick with a regular key. And when did Megan Fox become VW's spokeswoman? What happened to Brooke Shields?
A few thoughts: How can you cycle the glow plugs before starting the engine? If you are having a runaway engine, are you going to have to press and hold the button for 3 seconds before the engine shuts off *if the car is in motion? No thanks, I'll stick with a regular key. And when did Megan Fox become VW's spokeswoman? What happened to Brooke Shields?
That's Katy Perry, not Megan Fox. Megan Fox has those stunted thumbs.
The new Jetta looks nice but I was hoping for more. Weight loss is good but where did it come from if the new car is much bigger? It looks like every Jetta except the GLI will lose the independant rear suspension...from Jalopnik
Larger, Bigger, More, More, More: The '11 Jetta does not share a platform with Volkswagen's Golf hatchback/sedan. It is 182.7 inches long, or more than 3.5 inches longer than its predecessor. These numbers, taken from the press release, are for the European-market Jetta, but VW neglected to mention this in its printed material. The U.S.-spec car will offer a wheelbase roughly 3.0 inches longer than the current car. GLI models receive multilink independent rear suspension, but all other Jettas make do with a beam axle.
Here's the real news, though: Despite being larger than the car that came before it, the '11 Jetta is claimed to be roughly 100 pounds lighter when identically optioned.
Drivetrain: Specifics are thin at the moment, but four engines will be available at launch, including a 2.0-liter, common-rail turbodiesel producing 236 lb-ft of torque and a claimed 0-60 mph time of 8.6 seconds. A 2.5-liter gasoline five-cylinder, a 2.0-liter gas turbo four, and a 2.0-liter diesel four will be offered; the company's storied eight-valve, 2.0-liter four — an engine known to VW freaks as the "two point slow" — also makes an appearance, this time in 115-hp trim. A manual transmission is standard, and Volkswagen's six-speed, twin-clutch DSG gearbox will be offered on certain models.
Interior: Legroom is up. Everything is new. It's pretty. It's clean. It's tasteful. There's lots of room in back — VW claims a 2.6-inch gain in legroom. We kind of miss the coziness of the old car. Other details as they arrive.
Pricing: Around $16,000. Although Volkswagen representatives are talking in broad strokes — the press release only mentions that the price will be "around $16,000" — the Jetta's MSRP is rumored to be a rock-bottom $14,995. At that price, the Jetta won't include air-conditioning or a radio; according to company officials, the number is aimed at "a certain type of Internet buyer." They expect most base Jettas to clock in around sixteen grand.
On Sale: October.
Why the Heck is it Bigger and Cheaper? In the words of one Volkswagen official, "We really want to get on the shopping list of people buying Civics and Corollas. People have traditionally seen Volkswagens as being too expensive; we now offer class-leading rear-seat legroom and an attainable price."
Congratulations! Now, Jetta looks like another generic Japanese car. At the time when Hyundai is becoming the style leader, is this really going to sell more cars for VW?
That's Katy Perry, not Megan Fox. Megan Fox has those stunted thumbs.
The new Jetta looks nice but I was hoping for more. Weight loss is good but where did it come from if the new car is much bigger? It looks like every Jetta except the GLI will lose the independant rear suspension...from Jalopnik
Wow, does the base model even come with keyless entry? How about manual side mirrors or will it leave the passenger side mirror off? A base model makes lots of sense for advertising a the low starting price. I doubt dealers will sell very many but times are tough and many people aspire to own a new car. I don't think resale will be very good on such a base model so buyer beware.
Greetings all. I'm new to the group but I have owned several turbo diesels in the past. However this is my first VW diesel and I'm just getting use to all the features. I noticed it gives me a "Oil Temperature" function. What is the normal operating oil temp for this vehicle?
I've got a 2012 1.6tdi Bluemotion Golf, manual trans, CAYC engine that after a basic service by independent, but VAG literate garage, has poor fuel economy (6-7l/100k vs 4.5-5.5 before). The tyres were done at the same service and I initially suspected the tyres, however in retrospect the...
I do not have any problems with my lights. All lights are functional from a mere human's perspective. My car has developed this bad habit recently of displaying "Check Right Front Side Light!" fault any time I turn on the lights. This came up once or twice intermittently over the last couple...
Hello all! It's been a while since I've posted on here, but I haven't been able to find my search topic yet which is surprising!?
Take a look at the pictures I've attached here. Also keep in mind that CEL codes P13D7 and P13D9 always show up on start. I clear them, they stay cleared.
I...
Hello everyone, this is my first post in this community. I’m hoping I put it in the right section.
I am looking to gather info on removing the EGR tube, that comes from exhaust manifold to the EGR valve. After realizing I was a moron and just put the block off plate on the pipe, instead of...
VW TDI forum, Audi, Porsche, and Chevy Cruze Diesel forum
A forum community dedicated to Audi, Volkswagen, Porsche, and all turbo diesel owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, troubleshooting, TDI, maintenance, and more!
