FWIW, I don't think you can install 9w3 since it's a factory option. I'd like to get a Golf but the site FAQ says they only get 9w2 bluetooth? I think the cheapest OEM level option is the Fiscon bluetooth. http://kufatec.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=152&products_id=207 The benefit is that it also gives gauges in the MFD like actual ater temp, boost, and it works with the MFSW or touchscreen radio.
2010 TDI JSW Bluetooth 9w2 issues
Hi all:
Well I got the bad news officially from my dealer that my TDI wagon coming in next week has the 9w2 (as this site seemed to confirm). They went out to the lot and confirmed they had no voice command capability in the wagon.
I do not think vagcom can solve this one. VW did it again just like the absence of steering wheel controls. When you all start fumbling for your phone to make a call this thread should pick up steam in a hurry.
I am gonna try and set my new phone on its voice command to see if it will dial thru the unit for now.
Anyone with any solutions for an INEXPENSIVE retrofit please post.
Well I got the bad news officially from my dealer that my TDI wagon coming in next week has the 9w2 (as this site seemed to confirm). They went out to the lot and confirmed they had no voice command capability in the wagon.
I do not think vagcom can solve this one. VW did it again just like the absence of steering wheel controls. When you all start fumbling for your phone to make a call this thread should pick up steam in a hurry.
I am gonna try and set my new phone on its voice command to see if it will dial thru the unit for now.
Anyone with any solutions for an INEXPENSIVE retrofit please post.
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bluetooth options
My dealer mentioned kufatech and said they used this on an Eos and it did the trick. I will check out the link. thanks so much
My dealer mentioned kufatech and said they used this on an Eos and it did the trick. I will check out the link. thanks so much
Picked up my 2010 Sportwagen last week. I have to key the voice command on my Blackberry Curve, but from that point on, the cars system does the work, and responds to voice commands well. Hope this eases your pain a bit.
Voice Command only Thru phone and no Phone Book
Hi:
Thanks for your response. Are you saying the cars Blue tooth will pick up the call based on using the voice command in your blackberry to activate your call?
Here's my beef. You need to always make sure the phone is out on the console or whatever and not in your briefcase, back seat or suit pocket or pants pocket. Second you need to still scroll down on your phone to get to the button or set of buttons to set your voice command. After a call most phones default back to a menu of some sort and the phone needs to be scrolled back to again to set up the voice command.
The whole point is to not worry about taking your eyes off the road and where your phone is. The only phone I saw that seems to work for me is the iphone. It has a little indentation on the front that you can feel without taking your eyes off the road. You can push it and it will take you right away to phone book voice command or voice dial.
Another issue I want to ask you does your phone book in the JSW come up on the multi cluster display, your touch radio or anywhere?
I spoke to Kuthatec today. Their basic system for $484.00 allows the phone book to display on the multicluster and gives you those additional guages
like oil pressure and turbo boost. The down side is there is no display on the radio head unit and no voice command. The Basic Plus gives you a display on the Nav System but again no voice command and that costs $568.00. Neither allows you to dial out without using your phone.
This is all so crazy we are discussing this and it is just because the JSW gets the 9w2 and not the 9w3 bluetooth which is on the Sedan. These cars went up $440 vs. $220 and we get the lower bluetooth.
Sorry for the rant
Hi:
Thanks for your response. Are you saying the cars Blue tooth will pick up the call based on using the voice command in your blackberry to activate your call?
Here's my beef. You need to always make sure the phone is out on the console or whatever and not in your briefcase, back seat or suit pocket or pants pocket. Second you need to still scroll down on your phone to get to the button or set of buttons to set your voice command. After a call most phones default back to a menu of some sort and the phone needs to be scrolled back to again to set up the voice command.
The whole point is to not worry about taking your eyes off the road and where your phone is. The only phone I saw that seems to work for me is the iphone. It has a little indentation on the front that you can feel without taking your eyes off the road. You can push it and it will take you right away to phone book voice command or voice dial.
Another issue I want to ask you does your phone book in the JSW come up on the multi cluster display, your touch radio or anywhere?
I spoke to Kuthatec today. Their basic system for $484.00 allows the phone book to display on the multicluster and gives you those additional guages
like oil pressure and turbo boost. The down side is there is no display on the radio head unit and no voice command. The Basic Plus gives you a display on the Nav System but again no voice command and that costs $568.00. Neither allows you to dial out without using your phone.
This is all so crazy we are discussing this and it is just because the JSW gets the 9w2 and not the 9w3 bluetooth which is on the Sedan. These cars went up $440 vs. $220 and we get the lower bluetooth.
Sorry for the rant
That is right, I have to push the voice command button on my phone, and from there the cars system takes over. I can also receive a call through the cars system without touching my phone.
You are also correct that there is no directory display on the MF display in the car. I agree that this is a bit of a disappointment, but still better and safer than having to hold your phone to your ear, while driving, and the overall car makes up for any shortcomings with the phone. Thus far, I am thinking I got a lot for my money.
Hey, I love a good rant. Go for it.
You are also correct that there is no directory display on the MF display in the car. I agree that this is a bit of a disappointment, but still better and safer than having to hold your phone to your ear, while driving, and the overall car makes up for any shortcomings with the phone. Thus far, I am thinking I got a lot for my money.
Hey, I love a good rant. Go for it.
i put this in another thread, but it looks like you can get the bluetooth to appear on the MFD in the 2010s with a little coding.
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=257554&page=2
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=257554&page=2
I believe that's sedans. It appears that the wagons and Golfs will get 9w2 low bluetooth. What's confusing is the TSB that includes "Golf wagons". No clue what that's supposed to mean. Right now the situation is pretty confusing but it appears that:i put this in another thread, but it looks like you can get the bluetooth to appear on the MFD in the 2010s with a little coding.
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=257554&page=2
sedans are getting 9w3, no A2DP , has phone book and voice command.
wagons/Golfs are getting 9w2, has A2DP, no phone book or voice command
This is not 100% confirmed but the early reports are suggesting this and that's what the spec sheets said.
You mean the dealers can't tell you? Shocked I say!
9w2 bluetooth ADAP? Is Fiscon worth it?
What is ADAP?
Fiscon gives you guages like miles to empty, oil pressure, water pressure, turbo boost. Doesen't the std. cluster give you mileage and miles to empty? Is this worth the $484.00 if it gives you your phone book too?
What is ADAP?
Fiscon gives you guages like miles to empty, oil pressure, water pressure, turbo boost. Doesen't the std. cluster give you mileage and miles to empty? Is this worth the $484.00 if it gives you your phone book too?
Sorry, it was a typo, A2DP. It plays music over the bluetooth from your phone. The stock radio has a mp3 capability so I don't think it's very important.What is ADAP?
Fiscon gives you guages like miles to empty, oil pressure, water pressure, turbo boost. Doesen't the std. cluster give you mileage and miles to empty? Is this worth the $484.00 if it gives you your phone book too?
I have a "Golf Wagon" w/ 9w2. - and not a Jetta wagon. Hopefully that's what they mean :yum:I believe that's sedans. It appears that the wagons and Golfs will get 9w2 low bluetooth. What's confusing is the TSB that includes "Golf wagons". No clue what that's supposed to mean. Right now the situation is pretty confusing but it appears that:
sedans are getting 9w3, no A2DP , has phone book and voice command.
wagons/Golfs are getting 9w2, has A2DP, no phone book or voice command
This is not 100% confirmed but the early reports are suggesting this and that's what the spec sheets said.
What are the 3 Buttons in Headliner
Hi Everyone:
Just got my TDI JSW on Monday. On this 9w2 version the phone button on the steering wheel accepts the call as I am sure the 9w3. I programmed my phone to speed dial my voice command feature and went to ATT to log on and put my contact list on their speed dial contact program. It seems my voice is more discernable doing it this way. Although I cannot see who is calling without picking up the cell phone it is a cheaper solution than Fiscon which is $568.00 plus shipping and install and still no voice command.
In any event HERE is the QUESTION. There are three buttons on the headliner of the wagon. The colored light obviously turns green when it finds your phone. There is a button with a phone logo on it similar to the steering wheel button. There is a button with a microphone and a line going thru it. There is a button with the bluetooth symbol on it that looks like a spider. On the steering wheel there is a button with a microphone on it that even though the manual says voice command will cut off the music by pushing it.
What the heck are the three on the headliner for? Are they redundent or not usable with 9w2. Nobody at the dealer knew and the owners manual is worthless for blue tooth.
Thanks
martin
Hi Everyone:
Just got my TDI JSW on Monday. On this 9w2 version the phone button on the steering wheel accepts the call as I am sure the 9w3. I programmed my phone to speed dial my voice command feature and went to ATT to log on and put my contact list on their speed dial contact program. It seems my voice is more discernable doing it this way. Although I cannot see who is calling without picking up the cell phone it is a cheaper solution than Fiscon which is $568.00 plus shipping and install and still no voice command.
In any event HERE is the QUESTION. There are three buttons on the headliner of the wagon. The colored light obviously turns green when it finds your phone. There is a button with a phone logo on it similar to the steering wheel button. There is a button with a microphone and a line going thru it. There is a button with the bluetooth symbol on it that looks like a spider. On the steering wheel there is a button with a microphone on it that even though the manual says voice command will cut off the music by pushing it.
What the heck are the three on the headliner for? Are they redundent or not usable with 9w2. Nobody at the dealer knew and the owners manual is worthless for blue tooth.
Thanks
martin
I'm not sure so maybe someone else can answer this as well, but from what I heard they are redundant with the steering wheel controls. Non TDI didn't get the MFSW standard.
Well my news is that I have inquired at my dealership about the 9w3. After a little investigative work, I have found that the 9w3 part number is 1Z0035729. So I emailed the dealer about the part and pricing and he told me that the 9w3 is a factory option and there was no retrofit part for replacing the 9w2 at this time.
retrofit issue
I share your pain. Probably no retrofit because the car needs to be radically taken apart. Is the configuration of the overhead console with the three buttons the same on the sedan?
This is so damn frustrating. Even if one can spring for a nav the unit does not add bluetooth or voice command. I would look at a sedan to see exactly how the phone functions work. I believe the Fiscon will duplicate the 9w3 with the exception of voice command. My speed dial on voice command is working nicely but $569 gets you halfway to a nav.
my tech who did the mdi said most navs will have to hang the speakers on the car not using the existing speakers to get the voice command.
I would try and contact the Kufatech Division in Europe not CA to see if there is anything in the works since they have most of it covered.
I share your pain. Probably no retrofit because the car needs to be radically taken apart. Is the configuration of the overhead console with the three buttons the same on the sedan?
This is so damn frustrating. Even if one can spring for a nav the unit does not add bluetooth or voice command. I would look at a sedan to see exactly how the phone functions work. I believe the Fiscon will duplicate the 9w3 with the exception of voice command. My speed dial on voice command is working nicely but $569 gets you halfway to a nav.
my tech who did the mdi said most navs will have to hang the speakers on the car not using the existing speakers to get the voice command.
I would try and contact the Kufatech Division in Europe not CA to see if there is anything in the works since they have most of it covered.
I do not own this model of vehicle, but I'll take an educated guess at the button functions...Hi Everyone:
There are three buttons on the headliner of the wagon. The colored light obviously turns green when it finds your phone. There is a button with a phone logo on it similar to the steering wheel button. There is a button with a microphone and a line going thru it. There is a button with the bluetooth symbol on it that looks like a spider. On the steering wheel there is a button with a microphone on it that even though the manual says voice command will cut off the music by pushing it.
What the heck are the three on the headliner for?
I'm thinking the button with the line running through the microphone is a MUTE button. If you are actively engaged in a phone call, and you want to temporarily turn off the hands free microphone, you can toggle it on/off using that button. It comes in handy when you are on group conference calls, or if you need to have a private discussion with others riding in the car.
As far as the button with the Bluetooth symbol, I'm betting that is the one used to perform the initial bluetooth setup (pairing). Often times the function of these buttons do nothing if they are only pressed briefly (prevents problems from hitting them accidentally). More often that not you have to press and hold the button for 5+ seconds before it activates the pairing process.
Again, these are only guesses..
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