Touareg 3.0 v6 HDi slow to start when cold

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  1. Whoson

    Whoson New Member

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    Car:
    VW Touareg 3.0tdi 2006
    Location:
    Australia
    Greetings all> I'm new to posting into this group, so apologies if this is in the wrong spot. I have had a good look around what is s great looking forum, and can't find similar issues so here goes here.
    I'm having a frustrating time with slow starts, and have done for some time. The touareg will start, but only after 10 - 20 seconds turning over. Then for the rest of the day will start normally. I live in Ballarat Victoria (Aus) summertime now, and a generally temperate climate.
    Here is the last Ross Tech scan, engine running, (current mileage actually 161194??) after which I cleared the fault codes, and re ran the scan with no glowplug faults showing. The Central electrics faults also cleared - probably they showed up on one of the 20 second turnover starts?? As the engine was now warm, probably the computer said no need to even try turning glowplugs on?
    I am thinking (and have ordered) a replacement Glowplug control relay, what do others think?

    Monday,27,March,2017,17:27:13:14409
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
    VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0
    Data version: 20170220 DS267.3
    www.Ross-Tech.com


    VIN: WVGZZZ7LZ7D014189 License Plate:
    Mileage: 161190km-100158mi Repair Order:



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    Chassis Type: 7L (7L - VW Touareg (2003 > 11/2006))
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 08 09 11 13 15 16 17 18 19 1C 22 29 32 34 36
    37 39 3C 46 47 55 56 57 64 65 68 69 6C 6D 6E 75 76 77

    VIN: WVGZZZ7LZ7D014189 Mileage: 161190km-100158miles
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    Address 01: Engine Labels: 059-907-401-ASB.clb
    Part No SW: 7L0 907 401 B HW:
    Component: 3.0L V6TDI G000AG 0090
    Revision: --H03--- Serial number: VWZ3Z0F1509001
    Coding: 0011779
    Shop #: WSC 30023 959 91515
    VCID: 2A5BBABC86C7601197-5124

    1 Fault Found:
    005676 - Glowplug Control Module; Supply Voltage
    P162C - 000 - Open Circuit on Load Side
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01110000
    Fault Priority: 0
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 255
    Mileage: 161136 km
    Time Indication: 0

    Freeze Frame:
    RPM: 126 /min
    Torque: 214.5 Nm
    Speed: 0.0 km/h
    Duty Cycle: 1.0 %
    Voltage: 9.88 V
    Duty Cycle: 95.5 %
    Temperature: 18.9°C

    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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    Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 09D-927-750.lbl
    Part No: 09D 927 750 EB
    Component: AL 750 6A 0879
    Coding: 0004200
    Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
    VCID: 72EB62DC6E9768D1EF-5140

    No fault code found.

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    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 7L0-907-379-MK25.lbl
    Part No: 7L0 907 379 G
    Component: ESP ALLRAD MK25 0203
    Coding: 0014338
    Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
    VCID: 3D7181E06749E7A9C2-5140

    No fault code found.

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    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: 3D0-909-13x-05.lbl
    Part No SW: 3D0 909 139 HW: 5WK 484 94
    Component: Kessy 6700
    Revision: 67006015 Serial number: VWZ3Z0F1509001
    Coding: 0000232
    Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
    VCID: 66C30E8C525F847173-5140

    Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
    Component: ELV XXXX

    No fault code found.

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    Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 7L6-907-040.clb
    Part No: 7L6 907 040 T
    Component: CLIMAtronic R/L 4222
    Coding: 0020520
    Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
    VCID: 4189FD101BB18349A6-5140

    2 Faults Found:
    02508 - Temperature Sensor for Refrigerant (G454)
    010 - Open or Short to Plus
    00445 - Loss of Refrigerant
    015 - Cannot Be Tested at this Time

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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 7Lx-937-049-V1.clb
    Part No: 7L6 937 049 M
    Component: 3003
    Coding: 0098428
    Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
    VCID: 4683EE0C329FA47193-5140

    2 Faults Found:
    01117 - Generator Terminal DF Load Signal
    008 - Implausible Signal
    00907 - Intervention load Management
    000 - -

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    Address 15: Airbags Labels: 3D0-909-601.lbl
    Part No: 3D0 909 601 F
    Component: 0F Airbag 8.4E+ H11 1152
    Coding: 0012358
    Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
    VCID: 26434E8C92DF4471B3-5140

    No fault code found.

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    Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 7L6-953-549.lbl
    Part No: 7L6 953 549 H
    Component: Lenksäulenmodul 3401
    Coding: 0010031
    Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
    VCID: 4487F40404A396618D-5140

    No fault code found.

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    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 7L6-920-xxx-7LA.lbl
    Part No: 7L6 920 881 S
    Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT RB8 3211
    Coding: 0007711
    Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
    VCID: 489FE034388BB20161-5140

    No fault code found.

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    Address 18: Aux. Heat Labels: 7L6-819-008.lbl
    Part No: 7L6 815 071 D
    Component: Standheizung E1MAC
    Coding: 0000000
    Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
    VCID: 3365A7D8510D21D924-5140

    No fault code found.

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    Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
    Part No: 6N0 909 901
    Component: Gateway K<>CAN 0101
    Coding: 0000006
    Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
    VCID: 70EF68D4609B5AC119-5140

    No fault code found.

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    Address 22: AWD Labels: None
    Part No: 0AD 927 755 AT
    Component: TRANSFERCASE 0114
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 0D1111201769172992-5140

    No fault code found.

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    Address 37: Navigation Labels: 7L6-919-887-CD.lbl
    Part No: 7L6 919 887 K
    Component: Navigation 0734
    Coding: 0000002
    Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
    VCID: 4E93D62CDAEF6C312B-5140

    No fault code found.

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    Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 7L0-959-933.lbl
    Part No: 7L0 959 933 H
    Component: YP HSG 0400
    Coding: 0000081
    Shop #: WSC 33881 000 1048576
    VCID: 4189FD101BB18349A6-4B02

    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L0 959 701 K
    Component: Tuersteuergeraet FS 0201

    Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L0 959 702 K
    Component: Tuersteuergeraet BF 0201

    Subsystem 3 - Part No: 7L6 959 703
    Component: Tuersteuergeraet HL 0202

    Subsystem 4 - Part No: 7L6 959 704
    Component: Tuersteuergeraet HR 0202

    Subsystem 5 - Part No: 7L0 907 719 A
    Component: Neigungssensor 0020

    Subsystem 6 - Part No: 7L6 951 171 B
    Component: Innenraumsensor 0020

    No fault code found.

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    Address 56: Radio Labels: 7L6-035-186-CD.lbl
    Part No: 7L6 035 186 A
    Component: Radio 0734
    Coding: 0005447
    Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
    VCID: 3169ADD0AB1113C956-5140

    2 Faults Found:
    00878 - Connection to Speaker Front Left
    012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
    00879 - Connection to Speaker Front Right
    012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

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    Address 68: Wiper Electr. Labels: 7L0-955-119-V2.clb
    Part No: 7L0 955 119 L
    Component: Front Wiper 4027
    Coding: 0000341
    Shop #: WSC 31414 000 376832
    VCID: 3D7181E06749E7A9C2-5140

    Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AE Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
    Component: RLS 290606 014 1201
    Coding: 00208933
    Shop #: WSC 31414

    No fault code found.

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    Address 69: Trailer Labels: 7L0-907-383-1D2.lbl
    Part No SW: 7L0 907 383 E HW: 7L0 907 383 E
    Component: ANHAENGERELEKTRONIK 8254
    Coding: 0000001
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 36639ECC427F34F103-5140

    No fault code found.

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    Address 76: Park Assist Labels: Redir Fail!
    Part No: 7L0 919 283 F
    Component: 0E Einparkhilfe 1107
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 397995F07361DB89EE-5140

    No fault code found.

    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 09:19)--------------------------

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    Address 01: DTCs cleared
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    Address 09: DTCs cleared
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    Address 56: DTCs cleared
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    Address 01: DTCs cleared
     
  2. Keithuk

    Keithuk Super Moderator

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    Car:
    2010 Golf GTD (170) CBBB
    Location:
    Stoke on Trent, England
    005676 - Glowplug Control Module; Supply Voltage
    P162C - 000 - Open Circuit on Load Side

    That's a new one on me which I've added to may app. As there is nothing on google it

    Which will be the same as the old one.

    VAG Error Code: 17068/001668/4996

    EOBD II Error Code: P0684

    Fault Location:
    Glow Plug Control Module (GPCM) (J179) - Implausible Signal

    Possible Cause:
    Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL)(K83) active.
    Lack/Loss of Power.
    Engine may be harder to start.
    Engine hesitation.

    Wiring/Connector(s).
    Glow Plug Control Module (GPCM) (J179).
    Engine Control Module (ECM).

    Possible Solutions:
    Check/Replace all faulty Wiring/Connector(s).
    Read Measuring Value Blocks (MVB).

    As taken from my new Free EOBD II Error Codes software
     

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