TDI hill hold manual trans?

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  1. Bodoni

    Bodoni New Member

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    When searching through a local dealers database of available cars, it said the 2012 Jetta TDI was available with a hill hold feature on the manual. After arriving at a dealer all anxious to buy a car there is no such feature on the cars. What gives? Anyone know, is it only on the sportwagen and not the sedan? I really don't want this car with a tiptronic, had one of those on a 99 passat wagon and that was probably the worst car I have ever owned, by a wide margin!

    Is the hill hold a feature vw removed?

    Thanks in advance.
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  2. Keithuk

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    Welcome to the forum. welcometomyturbodies

    Why do you want hill hold as its something else to go wrong, what wrong with the handbrake thats what its there for? Its a standard fitment on UK Golf S, Match, BlueMotion.

    Auto Hold function using electronic parking brake.

    Hill Hold
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  3. ToeBall

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    If I remember correctly, hill hold can be turned on and off by recoding the ABS module.
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    Is there hill hold on a TDI JSW or no?
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    There is on my 2011 JSW.

    Took me awhile to get used to it (dumped the clutch about 20 times :eek ) but now that I've gotten used to it, it's not too bad.

    When you are on an incline the car thinks needs this, it keeps the brake engaged for about 2 seconds before it lets go.

    I seem to recall somewhere (either here or TDIClub) there is a way to change the setting in VCDS. Once I get one of those, I will check it out further. Until then, it's OEM Hill Holder for me...
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    My 2011 Golf TDI DSG has hill hold as well. Works well and is useful since there is no manual clutch.
  7. probstk

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    I have a Jetta Sedan 6 sp. and it has this as well. Getting used to it, but don't like it. I've driven stick for a long time and am pretty good at bringing the clutch to the start of engagement before moving from the brake to the accelerator. I rarely roll back. I find the delay with Hill Hold is a bit too long and I get worried that the guy behind me will become impatient!
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    Our 2010 JSW TDI with six speed manual has it. Most of the time I do not even notice it working. I think it can be turned off with the VAG COM.

    cheers
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    Is this some kind of a problem?
  10. Bodoni

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    No HH on manual I drove

    Hi,

    I'm a good stick driver, but my wife is not. We live in a town with lots of hills.
    Since we both will drive the car I would rather have the manual she can use too.
    She learned to drive stick on my 78 Dasher and it cost me a clutch!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill-holder

    Is the vw implementation a button or is it supposed to just happen?
  11. DAVE PARKER

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    It is "just supposed to happen".
    The hill holder feature on the modern VW is tied into the Anti-lock Brake System and is actually just the ABS releasing slowly after the driver comes off the brakes before starting to move forward. This is achieved by programing in the ABS computer.
    I did not realize that our car had it until I read about it in the owners manual.

    It works very seamlessly. The older hill holder feature on Subaru vehicles did not work seamlessly and often failed.

    I remember the Dasher, not popular but a good car for its time.

    cheers
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  12. Keithuk

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    I was just looking through the GTI-GTD-R spec on the UK VW site and under Technical. It shows the Hill Hold function as standard yet the pricelist you download only shows the S having Hill Hold as standard.

    GTI-GTD-R

    I checked my brochure and its not listed I downloaded the brochure from VW and its still not listed.

    The reason I was looking on there as a user on another forum was asking Do you refer to your golf as a 5 or 4, 3 or 2 door? VW list the Golf as 3 door and 5 door, I just follow suit.
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  13. wimpog

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    Is it possible to push-start a manual TDI?
    I have done this to my manual CR-V twice, when I forgot to turn the light off inside, and left it for the night, which drained the battery.
    Also, when you burn the clutch, are you burning the disks, or the clutch fluid, that can be added? How often does the clutch need to be replaced?
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    When I test-drove a manual JSW, I noticed the clutch catches up higher than in most other vehicles I drove before. Is this how it is supposed to be? In Toyota you barely release the clutch and it catches, in the VW I drove I had to get my foot up in the air, before the clutch caught.
  15. probstk

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    I've never been accused of being the swiftest fella...

    Just realized last night that the brakes (hill hold) are released as soon as you touch the accelerator. I assumed it was a time thing until now and have waited for the brakes to release before hittin' the gas.
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    While not a Jetta, my 2012 Golf TDI has the hill hold feature. I've driven a standard since the mid-80s. I don't *need* hill-hold, but I sure have come to appreciate it.
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    The hill hold feature on my '11 US Golf TDI 6-speed manual really does operate seamlessly. When I first got the car, I noticed the choice to turn it on or off in the MFI (it was on). Well, me being a life-long, macho stick driver...I turned it off immediately. A few months later, I decided to turn it back on to compare it to the hill holder on my '09 Challenger R/T. The R/T's hill holder is a bit intrusive, in that it doesn't release quite as easily/quickly as the the one on the VW. I believe that the VW's system is currently about as close to ideal as they're going to get it, though it could wait a second or two longer before self-releasing when you take your foot off of the brake. If you're on a hill (with the hill holder active) and you just remove your foot from the brake without letting out the clutch or feeding it any fuel, it will wait about two seconds before releasing the brakes and you're off and rolling...ready or not. Two seconds is almost always long enough (excepting "brain farts"), so it's really a pretty neat and useful feature. I like it a lot.
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    It comes standard with the lighted vanity mirror option. : ) , you know like FORD putting the " man " step on tailgates.
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