2005 Beetle TDI, auto trans, poor mpg

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  1. gil7bert

    gil7bert New Member

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    Just bought a 2005 Beetle TDI 100,500mi. First check of mileage was 30mpg. Using A/C most of time. Got into independent shop changed out fuel filter. Shop says no intake blockage when fuel filter was changed. Just drove 150mi, still 30mpg. We will have timing belt changed at end of month since never changed and will get tire pres up, but what else could be causing the low mpg?
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  2. almir

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    1. tire pressure
    2. dragging brakes
    3. dirty air filter
    4. clogged exhaust
    5. bad ect sensor
    6. thermostat stuck open
    7. wide tires (extra rolling resistance) and heavy wheels (normal size is 195/65/15)
    8. wheel alignment (creating extra rolling resistance)
    9. torque converter lockup clutch in automatic trans not engaging and disengaging on time
    10. clutches going bad in automatic trans (losing more and more of friction material will need more rpm to move the car the same speed comparing to when the clutches were in good condition.)
    11. heavy foot
    12. driving speed

    there are more, but over-sized wheels from my experience are the worst
  3. bigochief

    bigochief New Member

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    I have a 2006 Beetle TDI BEW PD engine with 6 speed DSG tranny and consistantly get 37-40 back and forth to work. Last year, on a four hour highway trip, I got 43 mpg. I just completed a 100,000 service (changed timing belt) at 74,000 so I'll keep an eye on fuel mileage. I don't expect much change as the engine ran well prior to the service.

    All items listed can surely lower your mileage but 30 is really low. Do you have a fuel leak or is your exhaust blowing black smoke?
  4. gil7bert

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    Thanks ALMIR, good list to start from, getting the tire pressure taken care of today. will look and see if brakes look like dragging.
  5. gil7bert

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    Do not see any black smoke, but will look closer
    I will check on pavement for fuel leak, but don't recal seeing any. Thanks for the comparison.
  6. gt4494

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    If it is leaking diesel you would definitely smell it. :)
  7. almir

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    also you can try this: go to Autozone and get one of those red 5 gallon thanks. Wait until your low fuel light turns on then go to your gas station. Tell them you want diesel for $22 start pouring diesel into your 5 gallon thank. Monitor gallons meter on the computer to see if 5 gallons on the display screen match with your red 5 gallon tank. Put the rest in your vw. Drive until your low fuel light turns on again, then stop somewhere and put all 5 gallons from your red tank into your vw. Now you know that you really put in 5 gallons. Reset your trip odometer and drive until your low fuel light turns on again. See how many miles you get for 5 gallons.

    For faster results you can find 2 gallon tanks or save 2 empty milk gallons. This will be the most accurate measure.
  8. bigochief

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    Good point as the fuel gauge can vary. I normally get 200 at the 3/4 mark and 300 at the 1/2 on driving back and forth to work. The gauge seems to vary every time I start the engine. In addition, foaming fuel does make a difference. I can normally fit at least an additional 1.5 gallons once the fuel pump stops although perhaps not wise to top off to the top of the filler tube. A drawback of filling a tank with diesel is pumping slower to reduce foam.
  9. almir

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    not only that fuel gauge is reporting wrong level, sometimes gas stations cheat (you think you are getting one full gallon, but actually you are getting less. I know that they have inspections by weight and measures people, but check it out when was the last inspection conducted. You will see little sticker on each gas pump.
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    record your rpm at 50mph 70mph and 85mph, then compare your rpms with other members who have automatic trans. If your rpms are very close then you can eliminate trans problems.
  11. bigochief

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    My MPG was going down slightly about a year after I bought my 2006 Beetle PD BEW TDI DSG auto tranny used with 45,000. So at about 60,000, it was getting about 37 mpg. After completing the 100,000 service at 74,400 miles which included the timing belt, water pump, thermostat, belt tensioner, idler pulley, fuel filter plus tranny service; I am now getting 44.5 mpg back and forth to work with the AC on. Pretty good for a 2006 PD with DSG. I'll do a brake job this weekend pending the weather. My only complaint is the price of diesel in New York state. Too much taxes on the gallon of diesel! And bio-diesel cost the same but is offered in only a few locations ie Syracuse. So much for NY wanting to go green. Besides, except for mid-summer, upstate NY is too darn cold for bio-diesel.

    Anyone ever think that the federal government could sell off thousands of acres of barren land to oil companies to pay down the debt? Go out west, the feds call barren rocks and sand National Forest. Drill baby, drill! My only caveat, American oil should be consumed by Americans and not sold on the international market. How much Alaskan oil went to the lower 48?

    I'm a strong supporter of diesel powered vehicles especially if the petro industry could come up with an alternative non-fossil fuel, better performance/higher cetane, mass produced and less expensive to produce than fossil fuel.

    I hear VW is working on a small diesel/hybrid that gets 70-100 mpg. It can be done.

    bigochief
  12. tecteachr

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    Can you feel the converter lockup on this vehicle?

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