2.0 CBAB 140 headache!!

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  1. Jam666

    Jam666 New Member

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    Hi
    I've recently replaced the engine in my 2009 2.0 A3 due to last owner seizing the engine, but I cannot get the new engine to fire up. I have swapped all the fuel system ie injectors, fuel rail and pipes etc to the new engine.
    I have run the pumps several times via VCDS and there is pure diesel flowing through the return from the HPFP to the fuel filter.
    There are no fault codes stored, but I have noticed in data log 17 that the actual rail pressure is fluctuating between 8.0 bar and 0.0 bar.
    Can anyone help me as I'm really running out of patients!

    Thanks in advance
    Jamie
     
  2. chittychittybangbang

    chittychittybangbang Administrator

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    What maintenance did this engine have? Check the timing.

    Try checking the return bleed off valve on the fuel rail - perhaps it's not holding pressure?

    Does it sound like it's not getting fuel or is it sputtering?
     
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    Thanks for the reply chitty.
    I was told that the replacement engine had 29k miles on it.

    As far as I can see there is no bleed valve on the cr (common rail) engine.
    I took the return pipe from the HPFP to the fuel filter which is also linked to the injector leak off. And ran both the pumps to get all the air out until pure diesel came out.

    It is turning over but not firing at all.

    Many thanks
     
  4. chittychittybangbang

    chittychittybangbang Administrator

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    Check the timing belt, it could be off. Could also be some sensor unplugged which, for whatever reason, isn't throwing a code (although they should)
     
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    As soon as the weather is on my side I will be checking the timing. Thanks
     
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    Had an hour on the car today.
    Primed both pumps manually for a good half hour, still nothing.
    Then I decided to spray some diesel cleaner into the intake, and finally she tried to fire!

    Now I have been using a delphi diagnostics in the past with this car, but now it won't connect and is saying 'VCI NOT FOUND' tried it on my old audi and it will connect no problem.
    Borrowed another handheld diagnostics machine and the damn thing won't connect either.
    I'm wondering if there is a relay or a fuse or something or anything else that will stop the machines from connecting.
    Any help would be great
    Thanks
     
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    Also the only sensor that was left on the original engine is the one on top of the high pressure fuel pump. I'm wondering if this is coded?
     
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    Sorry forgot to say timing has been checked and is all good. Been over every single sensor at least 5 times and everything is plugged in
     
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    Getting close to torching the damn thing soon
     
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    Finally managed to get a scan with vcds.. and it came up with the following codes attached in the pictures.
    Any help on how to investigate this further would be much appreciated
     

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    All those codes apart from 16346 are in my Free EOBD II Error Codes software

    There are a lot of additions to my new app.

    VAG Error Code: 16346


    Fault Location:
    Control Module (ROM Error) - Faulty/Defective

    Possible Cause:
    Unexpected Malfunctions.
    Control Module is defective.

    Checksum Error.
    Incorrect Firmware Installed.

    Possible Solutions:
    Check/Update Control Module Firmware.
    Reset the fault.
    Key from the ignition, wait 10 minutes, read again.
    Reset the control module to default.
    Check (Measuring Value Blocks)/Replace Control Module.
    It may be that a control module chokes at a given moment, and is now "in another language" below. What you could try is resetting the unit so that he learns the language again to communicate. Try:
    Remove all error codes and turn off the ignition.
    Disconnect the negative terminal of the battery, then disconnect the positive terminal of the battery and attach the battery negative (this sequence to avoid damage to the electronics persist).
    Leave the car standing for an hour or 12.
    Disconnect the negative terminal, acknowledge the positive terminal and attach the negative (this sequence to avoid damage to the electronics persist).
    All stored values are now gone and the Rule Modules must again "learn" each other to communicate. After this action disappeared the state of your trip meter [so write when you find that important] and the settings of your radio/CD/DVD are also reset [ie to perform the action first check all the codes you reach and operation manuals have the hand].
     
  13. Jam666

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    Thanks Keith that's a great help!
    Would you say this is the code giving me my non start/no fuel?
     
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    Right I sent the clocks away to be fixed, fitted them and the car is still refusing to start!!
    Scanned again and the only code coming up is still 16346 rom error.
    If anyone can give me any help it would be much appreciated
    Thanks
     
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    Hi sorry for the late reply but the link doesn't work for me.. my car is still in the same boat due to illness. The car is obviously not fueling so I would like some pointers for the process of elimination.
    how would I go about testing the fuel pressure manually on these motors? I suppose I would have to test at each point after lift pump, after auxiliary pump? Rail and injectors?
    Thank you in advance
     
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    I had a no start situation after swapping injection pump. Turned out something was holding the pressure valve open in the pump head. Replaced that primed pump started up. Andrew in Canada lead me to the solution.
     
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    Tuesday,24,January,2017,18:05:58:27963

    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64

    VCDS Version: 17.1.2.0 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4334.4

    Data version: 20170107 DS267.0

    www.Ross-Tech.com





    VIN: WAUZZZ8P89A033321 License Plate:





    Chassis Type: 8P (1K0)

    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 47 52 55 56



    VIN: WAUZZZ8P89A033321 Mileage: 103700km-64436miles



    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010

    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000

    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000

    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010

    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010

    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000

    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000

    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000

    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000

    25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010

    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000

    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010

    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000

    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000

    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000

    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000

    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Address 01: Engine (CBA) Labels: 03L-906-022-CBA.clb

    Part No SW: 03L 906 022 BQ HW: 03L 906 022 BQ

    Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000SG 3066

    Revision: 13H01--- Serial number: AUX7Z0H7FNF0A4

    Coding: 0000072

    Shop #: WSC 14557 551 00000

    VCID: 75B4EBA6B9C7E51F0E5-8020



    2 Faults Found:

    008214 - Intake Manifold Flap Position Sensor (Bank 1)

    P2016 - 000 - Short to Ground

    Freeze Frame:

    Fault Status: 01100000

    Fault Priority: 2

    Fault Frequency: 1

    Reset counter: 255

    Mileage: 103700 km

    Time Indication: 0

    Date: 2000.00.00

    Time: 31:63:63



    Freeze Frame:

    RPM: 0 /min

    Speed: 0.0 km/h

    Load: 0.0 %

    Lambda: 6.3 %

    Lambda: 3.2 %

    Voltage: 0.228 V

    Bin. Bits: 00000000



    008213 - Intake Manifold Flap Position Sensor (Bank 1)

    P2015 - 000 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

    Freeze Frame:

    Fault Status: 00100000

    Fault Priority: 2

    Fault Frequency: 2

    Reset counter: 255

    Mileage: 103700 km

    Time Indication: 0

    Date: 2016.07.19

    Time: 00:00:04



    Freeze Frame:

    RPM: 0 /min

    Speed: 0.0 km/h

    Load: 0.0 %

    Lambda: 6.3 %

    Lambda: 3.2 %

    Voltage: 0.228 V

    Bin. Bits: 00000000



    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1



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    Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----) Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb

    Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AD HW: 1K0 907 379 AD

    Component: ESP MK60EC1 H35 0104

    Revision: 00H35001

    Coding: 13424012092500FDC80E02E6901A00823800

    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

    VCID: 74B2D6A2BEBDFC1739B-8020



    No fault code found.



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    Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl

    Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 BG HW: 8P0 820 043 BG

    Component: KlimavollautomatH09 0100

    Revision: 000378 Serial number: 8P0820043BG

    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

    VCID: 72BED0BAC8A9F2272B7-8026



    3 Faults Found:

    00532 - Supply Voltage B+

    002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

    Freeze Frame:

    Fault Status: 00100010

    Fault Priority: 1

    Fault Frequency: 4

    Reset counter: 182

    Mileage: 103700 km

    Time Indication: 0

    Date: 2016.04.09

    Time: 21:09:54



    Freeze Frame:

    Voltage: 9.10 V



    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)

    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

    Freeze Frame:

    Fault Status: 00100100

    Fault Priority: 3

    Fault Frequency: 1

    Reset counter: 182

    Mileage: 0 km

    Time Indication: 0



    Freeze Frame:

    ON



    01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time

    008 - Implausible Signal

    Freeze Frame:

    Fault Status: 01101000

    Fault Priority: 3

    Fault Frequency: 1

    Reset counter: 142

    Mileage: 103700 km

    Time Indication: 0

    Date: 2016.08.01

    Time: 03:05:12



    Freeze Frame:





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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8P0-907-279-30-H.lbl

    Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 N HW: 8P0 907 279 N

    Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2801

    Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 00000008732809

    Coding: 118A0F07A0141380EF00000A4F00000000084E0564060003002000000000

    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 08192

    VCID: 48CA52529EB528F7A53-801C



    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8P2 955 119 F Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB

    Component: Wischer AU350 H10 0040

    Coding: 00056595

    Shop #: WSC 06314



    2 Faults Found:

    01496 - Bulb for Fog-Lamps; Left (L22)

    010 - Open or Short to Plus

    Freeze Frame:

    Fault Status: 01101010

    Fault Priority: 4

    Fault Frequency: 1

    Reset counter: 142

    Mileage: 0 km

    Time Indication: 0



    Freeze Frame:

    ON

    Voltage: 10.20 V

    OFF

    ON

    OFF

    OFF

    OFF



    01500 - Bulb for Fog-Lamps; Right (L23)

    010 - Open or Short to Plus

    Freeze Frame:

    Fault Status: 01101010

    Fault Priority: 4

    Fault Frequency: 1

    Reset counter: 142

    Mileage: 0 km

    Time Indication: 0



    Freeze Frame:

    ON

    Voltage: 10.25 V

    OFF

    ON

    OFF

    OFF

    OFF





    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 8P0-959-655-10.clb

    Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 J HW: 8P0 959 655 J

    Component: Airbag AU1042 H06 0090

    Revision: -------- Serial number: 003000000000

    Coding: 303142413039303030384A55305238503053

    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

    ASAM Dataset: EV_Airba10AURB4 001001

    ROD: EV_Airba10AURB4.rod

    VCID: 49CC5756893FD1FFBAD-801C



    Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:

    Serial number: 34928RB400003F4D1AE%



    Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:

    Serial number: 35028RB400003FD4992T



    Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side:

    Serial number: 35128RB400003F4CC1CY



    Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side:

    Serial number: 35228RB400003FD3043H



    Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:

    Serial number: 35547RB40000407C638K



    Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:

    Serial number: 35647RB40000407C650F



    No fault code found.



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    Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8P0-953-549-F.lbl

    Part No SW: 8P0 953 549 F HW: 8P0 953 549 F

    Component: J0527 H36 0070

    Coding: 0002042

    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

    VCID: 41DC4F76BD8F19BF62D-8014



    Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX

    Component: E0221 H02 0030



    No fault code found.



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    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY8.clb

    Part No SW: 8P0 920 982 C HW: 8P0 920 982 C

    Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H18 0830

    Revision: D0H18006 Serial number: 2247H006005091

    Coding: 0004428

    Shop #: WSC 01215 210 175981

    VCID: 392C2796D55F417F2AD-806C



    No fault code found.



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    Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530-V3.clb

    Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 Q HW: 1K0 907 951

    Component: J533__Gateway H16 0202

    Revision: H16 Serial number: 2700K0880908BC

    Coding: E9811F061002020101

    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

    VCID: 35342BA6F947A51FCE5-8060



    No fault code found.



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    Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb

    Part No SW: 8P0 920 982 C HW: 8P0 920 982 C

    Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H18 0830

    Revision: D0H18006 Serial number: AUX7Z0H7FNF0A4

    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

    VCID: 392C2796D55F417F2AD-806C



    1 Fault Found:

    16346 - Control Module - ROM Error

    014 - Defective



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    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN3.lbl

    Part No SW: 8P0 959 801 K HW: 8P0 959 801 K

    Component: Tuer-SG H03 0060

    Coding: 0000564

    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

    VCID: 43D0457EA7930BAF701-8016



    No fault code found.



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    Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb

    Part No: 1K0 909 144 C

    Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 233 2301

    Revision: 00H15000

    Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108

    VCID: 2A0E08DA20F9FAE7537-807E



    1 Fault Found:

    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)

    000 - - - MIL ON

    Freeze Frame:

    Fault Status: 11100000

    Fault Priority: 2

    Fault Frequency: 1

    Reset counter: 255

    Mileage: 103700 km

    Time Indication: 0

    Date: 2016.07.19

    Time: 01:10:18



    Freeze Frame:

    Battery Volts: 12.0 V

    DD

    Temperature: 13.0°C

    Count: 2

    Steering Angle: 0.00°

    Count: 0

    SteerAng n.Init





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    Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl

    Part No: 8P0 959 433 J

    Component: KSG H11 0080

    Coding: 1980200002186D2D8505489AC637

    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

    VCID: 43D0457EA7930BAF701-8016



    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C

    Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301



    Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 C

    Component: Neigungssensor 005 0003



    Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8P0 951 177

    Component: Innenraumueberw.H04 0020



    No fault code found.



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    Address 47: Sound System Labels: 8Px-035-382.lbl

    Part No SW: 8P3 035 382 D HW: 8P3 035 382 D

    Component: AB2 SUBWOOFERBOXH30 0160

    Revision: 00006 Serial number: 30659850248431

    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

    VCID: 343216A2F23DBC17F9B-8060



    No fault code found.



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    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl

    Part No SW: 8P0 959 802 K HW: 8P0 959 802 K

    Component: Tuer-SG H03 0060

    Coding: 0000564

    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

    VCID: 44D24662A29D0C9749B-8010



    No fault code found.



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    Address 55: Headlight Range Labels: 8P0-907-357.lbl

    Part No: 8P0 907 357 J

    Component: Dynamische LWR H01 0020

    Revision: 00000001 Serial number:

    Coding: 0000013

    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

    VCID: 41DC4F76BD8F19BF62D-8014



    No fault code found.



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    Address 56: Radio Labels: 8J0-035-1xx-56.clb

    Part No SW: 8P0 035 186 P HW: 8P0 035 186 P

    Component: R Concert2+ H03 0270

    Revision: 00H03000 Serial number: AUZ1Z3H8947049

    Coding: 0330211

    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

    VCID: 3FD8498ECB7B6F4F149-806A



    1 Fault Found:

    00857 - CD Changer Unit (R41)

    004 - No Signal/Communication

    Freeze Frame:

    Fault Status: 01100100

    Fault Priority: 5

    Fault Frequency: 1

    Reset counter: 142

    Mileage: 103700 km

    Time Indication: 0

    Date: 2016.08.01

    Time: 03:06:42
     

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