The 1998 B5 Passat TDI (one of 2 stateside?)

[JFettig]

It is no longer a myth, it does exist. I drove it home last night.






According to the myth, the front seat was chewed up from the auto show:



Here is a thread that talks about either this one, or the other one.

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=125610

The engine is a 1.9 AHH, there is 140500 miles on it now(500 are mine).

Since these pictures I've cleaned up the engine bay, I have plenty of work to do on the interior, I'd like to do a full interior swap actually.

I need to do lots of research on performance upgrades, I'm thinking about just doing an EGR delete and a chip on the factory turbo for now then maybe do some sort of custom setup if I don't go with a VNT17/22


Jon

[chittychittybangbang]

Great find! Thanks for the pics, can I add any of your pics to the buying guide as an interesting side note?

Do you know any history of the prior owner? IIRC you bought it from a dealer.

Since the AHH engine should be close to the AHU which has the ALH pistons. The engine should be good for up to around 200 hp. I have an article on how to fit an injection pump from ALH engines in case you have an AHU type injection pump instead of ALH type pump:http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q/a...repair-tdi.htm . The automatic transmission ALH had larger 11mm injection pumps, which combined with a larger turbo/injectors/tuning, can make for a fast car.

[tokendog]

How much? It looks like it's in pretty rough shape.

Would a car like this have any collector value?

[JFettig]

Sure, thats not a problem. The engine bay is cleaner now.

I do have most of the history, if I knew someone with a carfax account I could probably get more.

The car was in the auto show along with another identical to it. Burnsville VW bought them both and sat on them till 2001(at least mine) and sold it to someone here in the metro for $24,000. I have a huge stack of receipts from this guy up to about 54000 miles, then it blanks and the previous owner added a receipt at 82,800 for the t-belt job then no more info until i got it with 140,000 miles.

Its in rough shape but I'm working on that, in the process of fixing the locks tonight I messed up the window actuator cables so I need to fix that now too.
As far as what I paid for it, not enough

This week I'll be flushing the coolant, I'll probably get a new coolant reservoir for it because this one is green(universal crap turned it green). As soon as my mechanic figures out which parts I need I'll do the t-belt. It needs a glow plug or wiring harness. EGR delete will get done(I'll fab up some plates), I'll have to look for injectors then get a tune.

I too am wondering about collector value, I want to replace the interior to make it nice for me but I might do some body work on it too if it has any collector value. Also if it does I suppose I should keep the same interior color?

Jon

[goyeahyeah]

This car was from a car show? How did it get sold to the dealer if it was a prototype? Is it a legal VIN number? That's certainly an interesting story.

[chittychittybangbang]

Nice work, it'll be nice to see it coming along. Please share any pics since it'll be interesting to see the progress on such a rare car.

Interiors should be relatively cheap to find. While it's a cool car and I think it's definitely noteworthy, you have to have a market to drive the price up to make it financially worthwhile to preserve it as all original.

Originally Posted by goyeahyeah

This car was from a car show? How did it get sold to the dealer if it was a prototype? Is it a legal VIN number? That's certainly an interesting story.

There was a story of two 1998 passat TDI that were street legal and sold. One showed up way overpriced in the classifieds and then disappeared. It's not known if this is the same car but the OP says he got a good price. VW decided not to sell them because they felt they were too noisy and slow. They brought them back for 2004 with a different engine and revised chassis/body.

I was curious what parts were on this engine:
It has the AHU injection pump (same as 1998 Jetta TDI). Different fuel injectors. The turbo is 028 145 702 hx, a garrett. It's similar to the AFN turbo.

Here's a list of timing belt parts for the AHH engine.
timing belt: 028 109 119 aa
timing belt tensioner : 028 109 243 k
timing belt tensioner self locking nut: n 900 744 01
upper "relay roller": 028 109 244

other misc parts I looked up for you:
uses AHU fuel filter . AHU is 1998 Jetta TDI engine
air filter": 058 113 843 or 8d0 113 843
water pump: 028 121 004

The crankcase breather hose always dries out or cracks and leaks. It may be worth it to replace it, it's the same part as AHU.


It looks like it also uses the same crankshaft pulley but the US Spec AHU engine had a different part number. On mk3 Jetta and Passat TDI, it dries out and makes a squeaking or chirping noise on cold starts.
028 105 243 q is the part for the crank pulley AHH engine. Here is more info on that: http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q/a...hirp-noise.htm

[goyeahyeah]

I think I get it. It's a rare production car where they only produced two

[JFettig]

Cleaner engine bay:


Does anyone have a source for the water pump? So far one VW dealer told me the wrong info, another gave me the part number and a price of $171. The third, who's done work on this specific car before said they'd likely have to order it from germany, they've ordered parts for this car before and had them shipped in and it sounds like VW covered the shipping.

So far, the only parts that are unique are the water pump and t-belt tensioner(T-belt has a diff part number but is probably the same, there is an AHU belt in the car right now).


compact bracket / 1.9ltr. / 4 cylinder



water pump
/ diesel eng.: AHU,AFN,AHH, AVG
1 028121004

water pump
/
(1) 028121004 X

water pump
/
2 028121031J

pulley
/
3 N 90544201


hexagon socket head bolt with collar
M8X11 /
4 028121041F

seal
94X3,5 /
5 N 10172501


allen key head bolt (combi)
M6X22-S4-SP /
(7) 038121119B

seal
50X4 /
8 044121113

coolant thermostat
87C-102C /
(9) 048121121B

connecting socket
/
15

timing belt: 028 109 119 aa
timing belt tensioner : 028 109 243 k
timing belt tensioner self locking nut: n 900 744 01
upper "relay roller": 028 109 244



Jon

[Fluid]

Talk about a history!

It looks like the fuel injection pipes are painted black. They're normally bare metal.

[ZoomALH]

The easy way to judge collector interest - put it up on ebay. I don't think that even after 20 years the value of this car would go up though. Look at the price of old rabbits and there's your answer.