Breaking news, new NMS will still be 2012 VW Passat, TDI specs

[chittychittybangbang]

It looks like the new Passats will show up at dealers around June so that buyers can check them out. They'll start to get delivered around August-September. Thanks for the tip in this post: 2012 VW Passat production for June display

[ZoomALH]

The Passat is getting some flack on the interwebs for getting decontented a little but you can't make everyone happy...I would go for a little more style though.

[ChrisHo]

Originally Posted by ZoomALH

The Passat is getting some flack on the interwebs for getting decontented a little but you can't make everyone happy...I would go for a little more style though.

A Camry is more exciting to look at than the new Jetta or Passat. I used to think my Golf was boring until the new Jetta hit, then they followed up that the NMS and it confirmed my fears, they out blanded Toyota.

At least the new Beetle looks great

[darrelld]

First reviews are coming in;

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...sat-test-drive

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t_drive_review

http://www.autoweek.com/article/2011...late=mobileart

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/05/24/2...-drive-review/

[ChrisHo]

WTF?

They went back to a urea system to keep the diesel engines clean in the Passat? WTH? So not only do they go backwards in time and resurrect some old Chevy Impala exterior designs they cheap out on the diesel that powers it? I wonder if it is related to that problem I had where my egr filter went kablooie? Maybe the burn off system used in the Golf just doesn't hold up. (would not doubt it, mine does that weird burn off at the oddest times)

I guess they can't look better than Audi else who would those bottom of the JDPower quality survey cars.

[darrelld]

Some pricing is now up;

http://rumors.automobilemag.com/pric...sat-49243.html

-2.5 S (manual): $20,765
-2.5 S (auto): $23,460
-2.5 SE (manual): $24,495
-2.5 SE(auto): $25,595
-2.5 SE (auto with sunroof): $26,395
-2.5 SE (auto with sunroof and RNS 315 navi): $27,565
-2.5 SEL (auto): $29,165
-2.5 SEL Premium (auto): $30,665
-TDI SE (manual): $26,765
-TDI SE (auto, sunroof): $28,665
-TDI SE (auto, sunroof/nav): $30,265
-TDI SEL Premium (auto): $32,965
-3.6 SE sunroof: $29,765
-3.6 SE sunroof,nav and Fender audio system: $31,365
-3.6 SEL Premium: $33,720

[chittychittybangbang]

Here is official pricing from VW: I will add this to the buying guide now! http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q/b...ying-guide.htm

2012 Passat Pricing $770 All prices exclude destination

TDI:

TDI – SE $25,995----- 17” alloy wheels, V-Tex leatherette seating, 8-way power driver seat, heated front seats, touchscreen Premium VIII radio, Multi-Function leather-wrapped steering wheel, aluminum trim dash and middle console, exterior chrome window trim, sliding front center armrest
TDI – SE w Sunroof $27,895----- + Six-speed DSG automatic transmission, sunroof
TDI – SE w Sunroof/Navi $29,495----- + 18” alloy wheels, RNS 315 Navigation, Mobile Device Interface (MDI), fog lights, exterior chrome accents
TDI – SEL Premium $32,195----- + Leather seating surfaces, comfort sport seats, keyless access and remote start, RNS 510 Navigation, Fender Premium Audio System, driver seat memory, wood grain interior décor, 8-way power passenger seat, interior chrome accents

Gas models:

2.5L – S w Appearance (auto) $22,690 ----- + Six-speed automatic transmission, 16” alloy wheels, rear center armrest w/storage
2.5L – SE (man) $23,725 ----- 17” alloy wheels, V-Tex leatherette, 8-way power driver seat, heated front seats, touchscreen Premium VIII radio, Multi-Function leather-wrapped steering wheel, aluminum trim dash and middle console, exterior chrome window trim, sliding front center armrest
2.5L – SE (auto) $24,825----- + Six-speed automatic transmission
2.5L – SE w Sunroof $25,625----- + Sunroof
2.5L – SE w Sunroof/Navi -----$26,795 + RNS 315 Navigation with Mobile Device Interface (MDI)
2.5L – SEL $28,395 -----+ RNS 510 Navigation, Fender Premium Audio System, Homelink, comfort sport seats, interior chrome accents, wood grain interior décor, exterior chrome accents
2.5L – SEL Premium $29,895----- + leather seating surfaces, keyless access and remote start, fog lights, driver seat memory, 8-way power passenger seat


3.6L – SE w Sunroof $28,995----- Six-speed DSG automatic transmission18” alloy wheels, V-Tex leatherette seating, sunroof, 8-way power driver seat, heated front seats, comfort sports seats, touchscreen Premium VIII radio, Fender Premium Audio System, Multi-Function leather-wrapped steering wheel, aluminum trim dash and middle console, exterior chrome window trim, chrome dual exhaust, fog lights, sliding front center armrest
3.6L – SE w Sunroof/Navi $30,595----- + RNS 315 Navigation, MDI, exterior chrome accents
3.6L – SEL Premium $32,950----- Leather seating surfaces, keyless entry with remote start, RNS 510 navigation, driver seat memory, wood grain interior décor, 8-way power passenger seat, interior chrome accents

[chittychittybangbang]

Here are my comments so far:

There is a difference of about $2300 between the 2.5 and TDI on all trim levels. The price of the TDI is about the same as the 3.6L at same trim level.

The 2.5 has the option of SEL or SEL premium. The 3.6 and TDI only have SEL premium.

homelink is included with the SEL trim on the 2.5 but not the 3.5 or TDI engines. I believe this is a typo and it's included on the SEL TDI.

I think it's a big mistake not including the MDI ipod adapter on the base car. According to the specs, it's only on SE w/nav or SEL. It's easy to retrofit but it does take wiring and most owners won't do it. It's cheaper/easier to have it from the factory.

An engine block heater and auto headlights/wipers and auto dimming interior rear mirror are seen on the car show demo cars but these specs aren't listed on the release. I believe they will be included.

[Slamdunk]

OK, so starts at about $20,000 is fine but they should say TDI starts at $27,000 (after dealer fees and delivery). A loaded one at a little over $33,000 is starting to get expensive....

[chittychittybangbang]

Originally Posted by chittychittybangbang

An engine block heater and auto headlights/wipers and auto dimming interior rear mirror are seen on the car show demo cars but these specs aren't listed on the release. I believe they will be included.

OK, auto headlights/wipers will definitely be on base TDI. I'm sure of this because of this picture from the factory. Interestingly enough, it looks like the rain-light sensor is shown with a NON-auto dimming mirror. This is the first time that VW has put a regular mirror on a rain-light sensor mount. I don't think it's due to the picture. Normally the Auto dimming mirror comes with the rain-light sensor.

The pictured car could be an S. The base TDI is an SE and all the demo TDI came with the auto dimming mirror so I'm guessing all TDI will have the auto dimming mirror. I can tell because the bottom of the mirror has the flip switch. Demo and press cars have the auto dimming mirror equipped. The base is thicker and has an on-off button instead of the flip switch. Oh, and if your Passat badge is crooked, blame Labron. He's shown using an index tool to align the badge.